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    Default Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Not literally, but an amazing development demanding an independent inquiry ...
    https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ne...endent-inquiry

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Quote Originally Posted by dunedin View Post
    Not literally, but an amazing development demanding an independent inquiry ...
    https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/ne...endent-inquiry
    If there is any possibility of a divergence of opinion/facts, then why not an independent inquiry?

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Well thats gonna put a big black cat amongst the usual Clipper hating pigeons on here!

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Iím with Clipper on this. The Cheeki Rafiki report was inaccurate and biased.

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Is there perhaps the possibility of bias by the author of the Y&Y article?
    https://au.linkedin.com/in/morgan-kasmarik-49200a20
    I'd rather be tethered to a pad eye than tethered to an iPad.

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    I found myself at a dinner this summer with someone who did three (IIRC) legs of the clipper race in 2015. His views on their attitude to safety I found rather shocking and certainly convinced me that I would not want anyone I cared for to take part. What he said I'm afraid reflected the, what I had previously considered rather alarmist, accusations of profit before safety raised by some in previous discussions on here. Tellingly he had felt moved to put his concerns in writing to RKJ after the event and although he received an acknowledgment of their receipt, that was all the response that he ever got.

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quiddle View Post
    Is there perhaps the possibility of bias by the author of the Y&Y article?
    https://au.linkedin.com/in/morgan-kasmarik-49200a20
    Wow. Just a bit.

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quiddle View Post
    Is there perhaps the possibility of bias by the author of the Y&Y article?
    https://au.linkedin.com/in/morgan-kasmarik-49200a20
    Pretty poor editorial practice on the part of Y&Y not to mention the connection so that the reader can identify potential conflicts of interest.

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Quote Originally Posted by capnsensible View Post
    Well thats gonna put a big black cat amongst the usual Clipper hating pigeons on here!
    As somebody who has critisiesd Clipper in the past, I've still not had a reply about the safety engineering question I asked them, it will be interesting to see if they can make a challange. Who is going to run the inquiry and what benifit would it give? Several people have lost their lives on the event. While sailing is risky you can mitigate risk, as we all do.
    Cynical Scottish almost retired engineer.
    Gib'Sea 96 owner

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    Default Re: Clipper Ventures declares war on MCA & MAIB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Talulah View Post
    I’m with Clipper on this. The Cheeki Rafiki report was inaccurate and biased.
    Care to expand on this?
    What points in particular were you thinking of?
    My Karma ran over your Dogma.

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