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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    Quote Originally Posted by grumpygit View Post
    As far as I am aware one needs a special permit in Greece to use bottles.
    I don't actually know, I've never dived.

    Free diving with a spear gun is allowed.
    Yep that's absolutely true.

    There biggest no,no is the finding, removing and the taking of ancient artifacts, this is definitely a serious position to be in.
    Indeed. It's also wise to not have any 'artifacts' on your boat when in Greece, even if you collected them from another country. And if you happen to have any of the Elgin Marbles on your boat you'll never be heard from again....!
    Mostly harmless....

  2. #12
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    You can spearfish in Greece without bottles, (free diving, snorkelling) be careful to check what time of year you are allowed to fish, some months it is illegal, and you WILL be arrested, you are also limited to the amount of fish you are allowed to land, i had a boat fishing licence, plus the boat was registered for fishing, i could only land two fish (per person) or risk a fine.
    A brit was arrested for spearfishing in the Sami area, out of season (close season) he got off with the help of locals and a plea that he did not understand the rules

  3. #13
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    After living in Corsica for 10 years laws are merely guide lines at best.

  4. #14
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    A. Free-diving spearfishing is permitted without a bottle and without permission (because it has been abolished).
    B. You are allowed to have a respirator (bottle) in your boat for emergency situations (damage below the boat) and you must have a padi when the P.P. To dive
    C. Bottling and spearfishing together is prohibited.

    D. Bottle diving is prohibited without permission by P.P. And in specific places (due to the many ancient sites on the sea of ​​Greece)
    E. Now if you got inside the boat and speargun
    And a dive bottle is something that P.P. Cannot know it because especially in vessels flying the flag outside Greece (means of inspection) there must be documents from many different departments - Embassies.
    Hope to help you, now with P.P. Here in Greece he wants a lot of attention because many of them are unfortunately shepherds and not sailors as they should be.
    Last edited by lask; 15-08-19 at 07:47.

  5. #15
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    Quote Originally Posted by lask View Post
    And a dive bottle is something that P.P. Cannot know it because especially in vessels flying the flag outside Greece (means of inspection) there must be documents from many different departments - Embassies.
    I was told by a port police sergeant (about five years ago I'll admit) that the port police cannot board your vessel whilst it is in a port without your permission. However, the coastguard (really the same organisation now) can board you at sea (in Greek waters) without your permission. I have no idea whether that has ever been tested in court.
    Mostly harmless....

  6. #16
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    For us Greeks to come aboard we must have a document from a judicial authority. When they want to check they don't even get on board

  7. #17
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    I have some experience with the Turkish coast guard.

    We have wintered 11 years in Turkey, never a marina, just bay´s and from time to time a town to shop.
    Only three liveaboard “wild” boats in those days so the Coastguard took a pleasure in chequeing in on us. Sometimes every two days. Always very polite and correct except for the small Turkish flag that even if it was just a day old had to be renewed.
    One day I was anchored in Kapi bay, my wife was at home so I was the boss now and could do whatever I wanted. Coastguard came, second time in two days. The bigger boat stayed out and a smaller rib came into the bay and wanted the “Papers”
    In the rib 4 kids with machine guns and open mouths and one not much older guy with some stripes. I decided to pull some comedy. I took their lanyard, fed it trough a rope fair-led and then tied it to the eye of the main sheet in the middle of the cockpit.
    Got my papers, the officer looked trough them, probably not understanding anything of them because the are in French. All the time while he was browsing my papers I acted nuts. I am very good at it, my son and wife walk 10 yards behind me in towns, they don't want to be acquainted with the nut I sometimes play. The trick is talking. I start talking in my Flemish accent. Very loud, very fast and without ever stopping. I can talk about anything, nobody understands me. I can even insult people in their face, as long as I keep a smile on my face they have no clue.
    I noticed that the machine gun carrying kids started looking elsware, so I knew my trick was working. Then the officer asked to loosen the lanyard, so they could go away. He wanted away so bad he forgot to mention I needed a new red Flag.
    I carried on talking gibberish, schouwed them everything I had in my toolbox, sometimes laughing silly but not letting them go.
    Then the officer ordered a kid to get onboard with me and loosen their rope.
    I shouted “ OOOHHHH; NONONO “ and wiggled my finger. They all looked astonished, knew not what to do.
    Finely I let them go, all the time talking or more like shouting Flemish and smiling, never leave a gap where they can say anything. Just don´t give them a chance.

    Those guys ware learned, never came back. But then sometimes some other patrol boat came.

    The coastguard from Göcek never chequed on me again. Word must have gone round.
    Last edited by OldBawley; 15-08-19 at 09:13.

  8. #18
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    Spear gun fishing is allowed in Trinidad and Tobago but I dn't know about the rest of the Caribbean.

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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    I was launching off the Albufeira fishermans's beach and the marines came over to look at what I was up to. See ing the dive bottles, they asked what I was fishing for. Clearly a trick question, I told them that it was illegal to fish with scuba gear and it was to lay the mooring. They were a bit dissapointed.... I told them that it was a good 'try' and they had the grace to smile. Back then, it was a small place and we sort of knew each other, so these were not unusual exchanges. The locals were ignored in the infractions, but as a furriner, I would be fair game for a fine.

  10. #20
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    Default Re: Spear guns and diving

    Quote Originally Posted by DownWest View Post
    I was launching off the Albufeira fishermans's beach and the marines came over to look at what I was up to.
    Scuba in Ria Formosa is banned without license from PM who won't issue to recreational divers. Up to €1k fine and confiscation of gear if caught.

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