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    Default More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Hello all, and as we are looking to head across to the Canaries soon (we are now in Cascais) been looking into things in a bit more detail and it appears that, even if you are an EU citizen (let's not go down the B word path) you can only spend 6 months in any year in Spanish areas (see the book section attached).

    Screenshot 2019-08-26 at 18.06.07.jpg

    Question is, is this the case and are there any "work arounds"? Or are we stuck at 6 months per person in the Spanish areas per 365 days?

    Cheers in advance

    DTD

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by davethedog View Post
    Hello all, and as we are looking to head across to the Canaries soon (we are now in Cascais) been looking into things in a bit more detail and it appears that, even if you are an EU citizen (let's not go down the B word path) you can only spend 6 months in any year in Spanish areas (see the book section attached).

    Screenshot 2019-08-26 at 18.06.07.jpg

    Question is, is this the case and are there any "work arounds"? Or are we stuck at 6 months per person in the Spanish areas per 365 days?

    Cheers in advance

    DTD
    Yes, stay more than six months and you get in to residency and then wealth tax etc. However, break your stay and the clock resets. The boat staying there, at the mo, doesnt mean anything, its you that matters. Go to Portugal and we break the stay of the boat from the 1st of Jan so it isnt there for more than 6 months and you dodge the tax implications.

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heckler View Post
    Yes, stay more than six months and you get in to residency and then wealth tax etc. However, break your stay and the clock resets. The boat staying there, at the mo, doesnt mean anything, its you that matters. Go to Portugal and we break the stay of the boat from the 1st of Jan so it isnt there for more than 6 months and you dodge the tax implications.
    Sorry, can you please explain a bit . ore, as in do you leave the boat there and just YOU go to Portugal?

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    We spend several years there and no one ever cared or noticed - unless you have a multi million super yacht the wealth tax wouldn't even be considered and the port police at marinas (we stayed in the same one 3 years running for winter) welcome you back each year and don't even ask for a passport because they have met you before. Its a complete non event and not worth worrying about - unless the unmentioned B word changes everything in which case you'll need a visa to stay more than 90 days anyway

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    +1 to trident, not likely to be a problem. Plus your screenshot said 180 days in a harbour with owner living onboard, so 6 months onboard without moving the boat - unlikely to happen or if it does, unlikely anyone will be bothered. Though new Las Palmas de Gran Canaria marina apparently has new rules forbidding you having a 'holiday home' moored up in their marina. >>

    https://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2019/08/...2019-12065.pdf
    – La utilización de las embarcaciones como vivienda habitual o vivienda para usodistinto de vivienda habitual, incluyendo la utilización de las embarcaciones para suexplotación con fines de alquiler vacacional, ya sea entre particulares o a través de lasplataformas electrónicas o empresas de cualquier tipo dedicadas a este tipo de actividad.

    - The use of vessels as usual housing or housing for use
    other than usual housing, including the use of boats for
    exploitation for holiday rental purposes, either between individuals or through the
    electronic platforms or companies of any kind dedicated to this type of activity.

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Thanks all and we are looking to depart Cascais thursday I reckon to head that way. Once there we will see what sh@t sandwich we get delivered regarding the B word as that may force our hand to head to the Caribbean instead of going to the Med next season. Issue being the boat we have now is ideal for the Med, as that was our plan, and will do the Caribbean but I am thinking we may need to look at another boat for this.

    DTD

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Seems there are only issues if you loudly explain the situation to officialdom. So for example, you don't say "oh yes we've been here three years!" to authority types, however friendly, cos then they could helpfully arrange an invoice of hellish % of the boat. Legally-wise you should hop into other countries a bit. Illegally-wise you should keep your head down and not advertise the boat name too much on the web.

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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by t21 View Post
    Seems there are only issues if you loudly explain the situation to officialdom. So for example, you don't say "oh yes we've been here three years!" to authority types, however friendly, cos then they could helpfully arrange an invoice of hellish % of the boat. Legally-wise you should hop into other countries a bit. Illegally-wise you should keep your head down and not advertise the boat name too much on the web.
    Advertiseing the boat on the webs is a lot of people down falls In Many ways .
    Last time we spend time in a marina in Spain was 2010 , one morning there where guys taken photos of all the boats including ours , we heard no more but a few did get a problem but it turned out the once that did where also living in apartment in Spain or running a business from their boats .
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    And for the tax resident issue it's not 183 days in any 365, the year runs from 1 Jan to 31 Dec so you can do, say, Aug to Apr no problem. And it's you, not the boat.

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