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  1. #11
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Don’t quite understand the logic of Carribbean and Brexit - we have just come from Med to Canaries and will go to the Carribbean in a years time, but don’t see Brexit as relevant to the situation.

    We will just be tied to 90 days per 180 when we get back to the Med. but our boat can stay there indefinitely.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    so is this only 6 months of any 12 month period or is it no more than 6 months, ie, can you fly home, fly back a few days later and reset the clock on the 6 months?

  3. #13
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by RupertW View Post
    Don’t quite understand the logic of Carribbean and Brexit - we have just come from Med to Canaries and will go to the Carribbean in a years time, but don’t see Brexit as relevant to the situation.

    We will just be tied to 90 days per 180 when we get back to the Med. but our boat can stay there indefinitely.
    Forgot to mention, we have a dog with us too and that precludes us both going back for long periods to the Uk or leaving the boat.

  4. #14
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by RupertW View Post
    Don’t quite understand the logic of Carribbean and Brexit - we have just come from Med to Canaries and will go to the Carribbean in a years time, but don’t see Brexit as relevant to the situation.

    We will just be tied to 90 days per 180 when we get back to the Med. but our boat can stay there indefinitely.
    An obvious issue that might arise with an Atlantic circuit followed by remaining in the (EU) Med is that the Azores (along with Madeira, and the Canaries), are part of Schengen. So spending any significant time in the Azores on the return would subtract from your allowance in the European EU. A pity, since the Azores are well worth lingering amongst.

    The French and, I think, Dutch possessions in the Caribbean have the same 90-in-180 limit as the rest of the EU but are NOT part of Schengen, so would not detract from your time in the European EU.
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by GHA View Post
    +1 to trident, not likely to be a problem. Plus your screenshot said 180 days in a harbour with owner living onboard, so 6 months onboard without moving the boat - unlikely to happen or if it does, unlikely anyone will be bothered. Though new Las Palmas de Gran Canaria marina apparently has new rules forbidding you having a 'holiday home' moored up in their marina. >>

    https://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2019/08/...2019-12065.pdf
    – La utilización de las embarcaciones como vivienda habitual o vivienda para usodistinto de vivienda habitual, incluyendo la utilización de las embarcaciones para suexplotación con fines de alquiler vacacional, ya sea entre particulares o a través de lasplataformas electrónicas o empresas de cualquier tipo dedicadas a este tipo de actividad.

    - The use of vessels as usual housing or housing for use
    other than usual housing, including the use of boats for
    exploitation for holiday rental purposes, either between individuals or through the
    electronic platforms or companies of any kind dedicated to this type of activity.
    Bad news re. Las Palmas and holiday boats, as we were thinking of doing exactly this - basing a (little, old) boat in the Canaries and subsidising marina fees wit occasional Airbnb rental.

    Not surprised though - there are now dozens of boats doing this.

    - W

  6. #16
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by steve yates View Post
    so is this only 6 months of any 12 month period or is it no more than 6 months, ie, can you fly home, fly back a few days later and reset the clock on the 6 months?
    It's a rolling 90 days in 180. If at any time you have spent 90 days in the previous 180 in Schengen, you will become a pumpkin at the next stroke of midnight (better known as an illegal alien). Yes, it equates to a gross of six months in 12 months, but is not the same. The clock cannot be re-set on it, unlike the boat's clock under Temporary Importation.
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  7. #17
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by webcraft View Post
    Bad news re. Las Palmas and holiday boats, as we were thinking of doing exactly this - basing a (little, old) boat in the Canaries and subsidising marina fees wit occasional Airbnb rental.

    Not surprised though - there are now dozens of boats doing this.

    - W
    Yes, Las Palmas Marina now has a dedicated desk, with a computer guy, going through all the websites, as it was getting rediculous, with people bringing both 3 & 4 boats of various lengths, even a 45 ft motorboat, that was leased out for photo shoots etc.
    They were blocking a lot of the visitors moorings, and yes, had to move, when the ARC turned up.
    However yes, a lot of complaints, of Air B&B guests, smoking dope, on the foredecks.
    The locals complained, and the marina shut them down, threatening thousands of euros in fines, or confiscating the offending boats !
    My boat, has been in the same berth, since 2006, never had a problem, but I do fly abroad, at least twice a year , so , no problem there.
    Of course due to my travels, I never burdened myself with animals, perhaps thats why Ive had it so easy !
    Last edited by STILL AFLOAT; 08-09-19 at 16:04.

  8. #18
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    Default Re: More than 6 months in the Canaries/Spain and tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by davethedog View Post
    Forgot to mention, we have a dog with us too and that precludes us both going back for long periods to the Uk or leaving the boat.
    Then you just might have to accept, that you are going to be taxed , in Spain !
    Yes, The Canaries, are tax fee islands !
    However that only applies to purchasing goods...... fuel...food.. electronics...etc.
    Income tax in the Canaries, is exactly the same, as in Spain.

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