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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Manoeuvring with outboards

    Quote Originally Posted by Hadenough View Post
    Genuine question from a (currently) raggie.
    I just watched a Sports Fisher thingy, Beneteau Barracuda I think, about 25foot with twin 150 outboards. He came in nice and slowly on one engine but as he manoeuvred (nicely) into his pontoon berth he did not steer at all, the outboard in use did not move from the straight ahead position. He did however use copious amounts of bow thruster.
    Now, I have never driven a similar boat but I familiar with big Ribs and outboards and find it difficult to understand the logic of not steering into a berth.
    BTW this is in France where there are lots of these boats and they all do it.
    Enlighten me.
    During the last 24 Months I have had a Large number of hours helming and instructing three people on Beneteau Barracuda 9 metre boats with 150 and 200 HP boats, outboards obviously
    One had a 'flybridge' the other two did not
    Just for information
    I have just come across this Post
    I have not read all the replies
    My following comments are 'Virgin' as it where
    I must post quickly, I have 'stuff' to do!
    Because an outboard fitted vessel like the Barracuda has the engines fitted quite close to each other
    The 'Traditional' way of using them to manouver in 'Close Quarters' is not quite the same as One would do/use with a shaft drive vessel
    The twin outboard set up is really quite good
    To some respects a unique and responsive way of handling a boat
    It is a 'Balance' of all techniques
    One engingine can be used at some time
    Two on occasions
    The 'trick' as you noticed is
    Slow and sure
    Tiss the angle of approach and speed which is important
    As with all berthing
    The slower the better if possible
    If it it is breezer/ windy a more Gung Ho way might be the way but quite often that leads to problems!
    The Throttle is not usually the answer
    Nine times out of Ten it is the bane of berthing
    The 'Steer then Gear' is the way to berth
    What boat owners and similar do not realise and use with twin outboards
    Or any outdrive type vessels
    To 'turn' the boat in a tight space is to knock some 'speed off', IE sometimes just go into nuetral and then turn the vessel to port or starboard and hit reverse, whichever way you want the vessel to move
    But get all the steering done first
    Whilst in nuetral
    Small adjustements of the throtlle but BIG adjustments of the Helm
    First!
    Twin outdrives and or Outboards are very manouverable
    Its a Combination of the shaft drive tequniche
    But bloody hard to explain in writing!
    Crackin boats thos Barracudas by the way!
    Jerk of all Trades Master of None

  2. #22
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    Mar 2007
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    Default Re: Manoeuvring with outboards

    Quote Originally Posted by EU_Cruiser View Post
    More or less but abusing the thruster is symptomatic of something not akin to good seamanship.
    Bit pompous? … Outboards won't steer if they're not driving. Nothing wrong with using a bowthruster. My boat's got both bow and stern thrusters with one shaft drive engine. Makes docking extremely easy - that's what they're there for and nothing to do with good or bad seamanship - what a silly thing to say.
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  3. #23
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    May 2011
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    Default Re: Manoeuvring with outboards

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher 5 View Post
    Bit pompous? … Outboards won't steer if they're not driving. Nothing wrong with using a bowthruster. My boat's got both bow and stern thrusters with one shaft drive engine. Makes docking extremely easy - that's what they're there for and nothing to do with good or bad seamanship - what a silly thing to say.
    I will rephrase. Better boat control

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