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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Quote Originally Posted by Portofino View Post
    They are all printed theses days I,am told right across the range.
    Waddumean by "printed", PF?

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Quote Originally Posted by MapisM View Post
    Waddumean by "printed", PF?
    Me too .

    Fairline ones aren't printed, they're embroidered. I should know, I supply them !

    Beautiful boats by the way Porto.
    Last edited by petem; 09-09-19 at 12:05.

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    He meant painted
    That’s news to me, and v interesting because paint is better than gel coat.
    In the flesh the colour is same as mikef’s boat. I think porto’s camera is darkening it.
    I like the f780 a lot. The transom seats are great, and there are Seabob lockers abaft of transom stairs, both sides. Much of the design is great. Many of the small shortcomings are retro fixable (eg. fly windshield too low)
    The decisions are:
    1. can you live with no internal fly stairs (and hard to retrofit on this boat, unlike say princess 85)?;
    2. can you live with the awful unmargined narrow strip teak decks?
    3. Can you live with the appliance-light galley?
    4. Can you redesign your boating to live with a very small fuel tank?
    Last edited by jfm; 09-09-19 at 12:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfm View Post
    He meant painted
    That’s news to me, and v interesting because paint is better than gel coat.
    In the flesh the colour is same as mikef’s boat. I think porto’s camera is darkening it.
    I like the f780 a lot. The transom seats are great, and there are Seabob lockers abaft of transom stairs, both sides. Much of the design is great. Many of the small shortcomings are retro fixable (eg. fly windshield too low)
    The decisions are:
    1. can you live with no internal fly stairs (and hard to retrofit on this boat, unlike say princess 85)?;
    2. can you live with the awful unmargined narrow strip teak decks?
    3. Can you live with the appliance-light galley?
    4. Can you redesign your boating to live with a very small fuel tank?
    Would not a Ferretti 850 make a better comparison to a Princess 85?

    Thanks for the photos John, I have already used them for the secret group :P

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Sorry typo painted
    I knew Pershing are but was surprised the rest are too.
    It does not need polishing - waxing just a wash apparently and easy to repair scratches
    Never seems to dull or caulk like gel coating the uv . Sure it eventually goes but keeps its newness longer .

    For a colour paint works better I think ?

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Quote Originally Posted by Portofino View Post
    For a colour paint works better I think ?
    Yes, but its harder work. Gelcoat out of the mold, soft sanding and polish and its done.

    Painting needs sanding, painting and polish. Also molds especially with darker colors needs to be better made, or else errors are more prone to show.

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Quote Originally Posted by MapisM View Post
    Out of idle curiosity, you don't remember the model, do you?
    Based on the approximate timeframe, my bet is that she was either a 165 or 175.
    Back then, they were the first Zuccon designed Ferrettis, and after more than a quarter of a century, they still look more modern than many current boats.
    Which is a big tribute to him, and to NF who understood his potential.
    I think it was a 165

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Ferretti 850 is a great boat even if you can live with a tiny garaged tender except for the stupidly small fuel tank. What were they thinking when they decided on 6750 litres in a 70 tonne boat? Princess y85 with same MAN1900 engines has 11,000 litres, which is the right way to do it. It’s a pity ferretti current line up around 24 m has this problem.

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Quote Originally Posted by jfm View Post
    4. Can you redesign your boating to live with a very small fuel tank?
    Part of the cost cutting. The old 780 had 5900 litres of fuel compared to 5000 litres in the new 780 and 1300 litres of water compared to 1000 litres

    I looked at the 670 as a replacement for my 630. Narrower beam, V8 instead of V12 MAN engines, lower top speed , no internal flybridge steps in exchange for 1 extra sleeping cabin plus a load of money

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    Default Re: Ferretti preview Monaco

    Quote Originally Posted by jfm View Post
    can you live with no internal fly stairs (and hard to retrofit on this boat, unlike say princess 85)?
    A great excuse for jumping straight into the 920, if I've ever seen one!
    Go ahead J, you know you want to.
    And I for one would love to follow an IT-based build thread...

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