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    Default And another Car transporter falls over



    These ships seem to be inherently unsafe
    Sadly 4 crew missing
    https://gcaptain.com/four-missing-as...swick-georgia/

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    How many does that make?

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Harry View Post


    These ships seem to be inherently unsafe
    Sadly 4 crew missing
    https://gcaptain.com/four-missing-as...swick-georgia/
    Very sad. But "inherently unsafe" is rather overstating things.

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Very sad. But "inherently unsafe" is rather overstating things.
    Would “inherently unstable” be more acceptable then ?

    Scary sight, particularly as the Solent one showed how dangerous steel decks become at 70 degrees of heel

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Very sad. But "inherently unsafe" is rather overstating things.
    "Well, I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones."
    "Seamen are always wanting to do things the proper way; and I like to do them my way."

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    From memory of the MAIB report on the Hoegh Osaka incident in the Solent, these ships depend on a water ballasting system to maintain their stability and the instruments that measure the content of the ballast tanks weren't working. So the crew were estimating the tanks' contents from the length of time they had been running the pumps. Also some of the heavy cargo was loaded on the wrong decks. So is it the design or the operation of the ships which is unsafe?
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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Quote Originally Posted by DJE View Post
    system to maintain their stability
    Reminds me of the Boeing saga. Can we then deduce that they are inherently unstable?

    A plane with a far aft centre of gravity can be flown, but it won't fly itself.

    I think they look bizarrely top heavy and it doesn't surprise me that they fall over.

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Quote Originally Posted by sails_02 View Post
    I think they look bizarrely top heavy and it doesn't surprise me that they fall over.
    So do cruise liners, to me. Best to ask their STIX value before booking?

    Mike.

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Quote Originally Posted by mjcoon View Post
    So do cruise liners, to me. Best to ask their STIX value before booking?

    Mike.
    Fin keel yachts with a good STIX value take the ground at a similar angle.....

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    Default Re: And another Car transporter falls over

    Is that a fire on the side of it?

    No mention of fire in the linked article, but there's certainly smoke and what looks like an orange glow.

    Pete

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