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    Quote Originally Posted by Poecheng View Post
    I observed that, of all the possibilities in the world for saving lives, it was perhaps odd that both that were publicised are benefitting muslims.
    It’s not odd in the slightest. The Daily Mail knows perfectly well that publicising those ones in particular will best serve their aim of whipping up the required daily hatred amongst their readership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minn View Post
    I think I detect the "advice" of HMG behind these foreign adventures of the RNLI.
    You may well be right. Ultimately the problem with this kind of ambiguity is that it splits opinion; a bit like a cycle charity promoting bicycles to women in countries where they are forbidden to drive.

    ”Hey, they’re getting fit and helping the environment at the same time; what’s not to like?”, might be the cry. “Well quite a lot actually”, many would say.

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    On a practical note, so far as I am aware, the RNLI sell all (?) their retired boats to their equivalent orgnaisation in China. I know this because we carry them. China has lots of coastline, lots of fishing boats and lousy weather...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minn View Post
    I think I detect the "advice" of HMG behind these foreign adventures of the RNLI.
    Not at all. The RNLI wants to reduce drownings worldwide. In the UK, that involves education visits to schools, safety campaigns, Swimsafe, throwbag training etc, and, ultimately, rescuing people if necessary.

    Worldwide, they looked for somewhere where a relatively small amount of money would have the greatest effect.
    Turns out that 40 children a day drown in Bangladesh. Why? Because parents have to go out to work all day, leaving the kids to play on their own. And there's a lot of riverbanks in Bangladesh.
    So the RNLI pay for creches, thus keeping children supervised, and removing the risk of drowning.

    Similarly, the idea of providing burkinis. Not to promote Sharia law, as someone has suggested, but as a cheap, practical way, of teaching people to swim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minn View Post
    On a practical note, so far as I am aware, the RNLI sell all (?) their retired boats to their equivalent orgnaisation in China. I know this because we carry them. China has lots of coastline, lots of fishing boats and lousy weather...
    Minn,

    as the Chinese can make their own nuclear propelled aircraft carriers and submarines plus a pretty good space programme, I'd have thought just give them the plans for decent lifeboats - the actual boats must have more deserving recipients around the Med' for a start.
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    They are trying to make up for the failure of the varios governments across the world to look after their own populations. As such there is no limit to what needs to be spent "worldwide".

    I would suggest this course of action is outside their core activity of saving life around the UK. If they want to persue it, they should set up a separate and dedicated charity whose sole purpose is foreign intervention. They can compete in the market with all the other charities showing pictures of starving children who need just £3.00 a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seajet View Post
    Minn,

    as the Chinese can make their own nuclear propelled aircraft carriers and submarines plus a pretty good space programme, I'd have thought just give them the plans for decent lifeboats - the actual boats must have more deserving recipients around the Med' for a start.

    Like all the migrants trying to get into Europe?
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    I was thinking more on the lines of deserving yotties and fishermen in trouble, the people selling dinghies for imigrants to get across need a short sharp military solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    This is what the RNLI said at the time:

    "We do not stand volunteers down lightly. We recognise the years of dedication and the skill involved in becoming a crew member, helm or Coxswain. We fully understand and respect the close bond and camaraderie of our crew and other volunteers. We know that friendly banter is a key part of this.

    But to be clear – we simply will not tolerate lifeboats being taken for joyrides in rough weather without full crew. We don’t accept that hard core, graphic pornography has any place at a lifeboat station. We will not tolerate threats of violence towards our volunteers or staff. We will not stand for bullying or aggressive behaviour."


    And as a long-serving crew member, I have to agree.

    The catalyst for last year’s dispute was when the then Harbourmaster, Captain Phil Buckley, made an informal complaint to the RNLI chief executive that Mr Hibbs had ‘self-launched’ the inshore lifeboat on 28 October 2016 without being requested by the Coastguard.

    The RNLI investigated and found that proper procedures had mostly been followed and the complaint was dismissed. However, during the investigation the charity found that ‘significant breaches of the volunteer code’ had occurred, leading to a ‘serious breakdown in working relationships’, and Mr Hibbs was stood down. The crew then walked out in protest.

    And independent report into the entire affair says: The investigation, by Guernsey Harbourmaster Captain Chad Murray, found that the UK-based RNLI failed to properly manage the station for years and should never have investigated an informal complaint about coxswain Andy Hibbs which ultimately triggered the breakdown in the relationship between the charity and local crew.

    https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2...feboat-report/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    As I mentioned on here last year when the story originally broke, no one got sacked for having a naughty mug in a cupboard, or for any other minor transgression. The tabloid press portrayed them as such, as it made a better story.

    This is what the RNLI said at the time:

    "We do not stand volunteers down lightly. We recognise the years of dedication and the skill involved in becoming a crew member, helm or Coxswain. We fully understand and respect the close bond and camaraderie of our crew and other volunteers. We know that friendly banter is a key part of this.

    But to be clear – we simply will not tolerate lifeboats being taken for joyrides in rough weather without full crew. We don’t accept that hard core, graphic pornography has any place at a lifeboat station. We will not tolerate threats of violence towards our volunteers or staff. We will not stand for bullying or aggressive behaviour."


    And as a long-serving crew member, I have to agree.
    Hear, hear

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