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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk View Post
    They are trying to make up for the failure of the varios governments across the world to look after their own populations. ...I would suggest this course of action is outside their core activity of saving life around the UK.
    Would I be wrong to conclude that the RNLI makes up for the failure of the UK government to look after its own population?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    Not at all. The RNLI wants to reduce drownings worldwide.

    Worldwide, they looked for somewhere where a relatively small amount of money would have the greatest effect.

    ...Similarly, the idea of providing burkinis. Not to promote Sharia law, as someone has suggested, but as a cheap, practical way, of teaching people to swim.
    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    This is what the RNLI said at the time:
    But to be clear – we simply will not tolerate lifeboats being taken for joyrides in rough weather without full crew. We don’t accept that hard core, graphic pornography has any place at a lifeboat station. We will not tolerate threats of violence towards our volunteers or staff. We will not stand for bullying or aggressive behaviour."
    Laudable objectives. The trouble is Bangladesh was ranked as 149/180 on the global corruption index. In this context, failing to work with the competent UK government authority seems naive:
    https://www.transparency.org/country/BGD

    Re the RNLI's response to "joyrides", bullying" and so on. It does sometimes feel a tad sanctimonious and self-serving, but their stated objectives nevertheless seem entirely solid.

    In which light, why has it chosen to wade into the ultra-sensitive burkini debate with seemingly so little care? And how does the RNLI square lending its esteemed status and principles in kow towing to a Tanzanian regime described by Human Rights Watch thus?

    Children’s Rights
    Girls in Tanzania continue to face discrimination in education following Magufuli’s 2017 ban on pregnant girls and young mothers in schools. Many secondary school officials routinely subject girls to forced pregnancy testing as a disciplinary measure to expel pregnant students from schools.
    Corporal punishment remains a serious problem in Tanzanian schools. In August, a 13-year-old schoolboy died after being beaten severely by his teacher.

    Women’s rights
    In September, the government announced that it was suspending United States Agency for International Development-supported birth control-related messaging. Magufuli has argued women should give up contraception, that family planning information is unnecessary and that people should work harder to provide for their families.
    Thousands of Tanzanian women working as domestic workers in the Middle East face pervasive labor rights violations and other abuses. Tanzania has no legal framework to protect migrant workers from being recruited into abusive employment situations overseas, and this facilitates the abuse of workers.

    Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity
    Tanzanian law makes consensual adult same-sex conduct punishable with up to life in prison. The crackdown on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people initiated by Magufuli’s government in July 2016 continues unabated. On October 31, Dar es Salaam Regional Commissioner, Paul Makonda, announced plans to round up suspected gays and subject them to forced anal examinations and conversion therapy. Four days later, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statementthat the campaign by Makonda represented “his opinion and not the position of the government” and pledged to “continue to respect and protect” internationally recognized human rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westhinder View Post
    Would I be wrong to conclude that the RNLI makes up for the failure of the UK government to look after its own population?
    A very fair comment.

    As a one time donor, I supported them in their work around the UK.

    Sadly, their PC approach and events like this have lead me to remove them from our wills. I am vert saddened to have found myself doing that but I can't support an organisation that has lost it's way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    The catalyst for last year’s dispute was when the then Harbourmaster, Captain Phil Buckley, made an informal complaint to the RNLI chief executive that Mr Hibbs had ‘self-launched’ the inshore lifeboat on 28 October 2016 without being requested by the Coastguard.....
    I think the "joyride" incident quoted by JuanTwoThree refers to Scarborough, which was reported at about the same time as the Whitby incident.

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    You know a story is cutting close to the bone when the humorous websites start parodying it...

    Can't help but feel that they took a lot of inspiration from this thread though....

    https://newsthump.com/2019/09/16/rnl...wiLug6iXdgnb_M

    The RNLI is facing a funding crisis this morning after they let slip that a significant proportion of their budget is pissed away hauling gammons out the Solent.

    Cash reserves were already at a record low after Daily Mail readers withdrew their meagre donations on learning the organization allocates a tiny fraction of its budget to prevent black foreigners from drowning.

    But the latest revelation has caused shockwaves throughout the prevention-of-water-related-deaths industry, with many Britons prepared to accept some measure of moribund, floating racists interrupting an otherwise pleasant game of beach volleyball.

    Inspite of this, super-hydrated, lifeless Mail readers are among the least popular things to be found on aquatic-style holidays, ranking well below jellyfish, eels and chance meetings with Peter Stringfellow and one of his girlfriends.


    A report concluded that the belligerent are often returned to the shore by the RNLI, where they are able to propagate their hatred towards minorities while drying themselves off with a towel.

    The RNLI’s financial woes represent the biggest threat to the water safety of UK residents since someone decided it would be a great idea to put Rolf Harris in a swimming pool full of kids.

    RNLI spokesman, Simon Williams, said, “Daily Mail readers will often ignore expert advice on high tides and get into difficulty because they think rising sea levels are part of the liberal Global Warming conspiracy.”

    He added, “The sad irony is: of all the various semi-literate demographics within the UK, Daily Mail readers are the ones who most frequently find themselves out of their depth.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by westhinder View Post
    Would I be wrong to conclude that the RNLI makes up for the failure of the UK government to look after its own population?
    Yes you'd be wrong, we mostly look after ourselves but the REAL RNLI unpaid volunteers look after casualties very well indeed, they're brilliant - it's the parasites sitting in offices paying themselves jolly well who are the problem.
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    One man’s “naught mug” is another man’s “hard core pornography” I guess.

    If one of my staff bought another member of staff a inappropriate mug as a laugh, and it was on company premises, I would have a word and tell them it was not acceptable and to remove it. Job done. They would not lose their job unless they has upset other staff members.

    If they ever engaged in real sexual harassment, bullying, racism ect they would be gone.

    That ability to use judgement is called leadership. Many organisations are now so politically correct that they have lost a sense of perspective. I do not know the details of the RNLI cases maybe there is more to the story than has been reported but at a surface level it does not look like good management. It is certainly poor PR management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk View Post

    I can't support an organisation that has lost it's way.
    Well, quite. Her Majesty might say the same.

    When are you emigrating - unless of course you have already done so?

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    The reason why retired modern RNLI all weather boats are shipped to China is because China pays the best price for them. It’s a market based export transaction, with the proceeds going to RNLI funds.

    Gammons should be happy with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch01527 View Post
    One man’s “naught mug” is another man’s “hard core pornography” I guess.

    If one of my staff bought another member of staff a inappropriate mug as a laugh, and it was on company premises, I would have a word and tell them it was not acceptable and to remove it. Job done. They would not lose their job unless they has upset other staff members.

    If they ever engaged in real sexual harassment, bullying, racism ect they would be gone.
    The mugs were not as depicted in the tabloids. I seem to remember they were captioned in The Sun as "how the mugs might have looked". They wouldn't have been able to print what was actually on the said items.

    But the mugs were just a very small part of the reason that the crew were stood down.

    As is usual, the papers only concentrate on what makes a good headline, and is most likely to get their readers outraged.
    I'm not a spokesman for the RNLI. I just happen to drive one of their lifeboats.

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