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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    The mugs were not as depicted in the tabloids. I seem to remember they were captioned in The Sun as "how the mugs might have looked". They wouldn't have been able to print what was actually on the said items.

    But the mugs were just a very small part of the reason that the crew were stood down.

    As is usual, the papers only concentrate on what makes a good headline, and is most likely to get their readers outraged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    The mugs were not as depicted in the tabloids. I seem to remember they were captioned in The Sun as "how the mugs might have looked". They wouldn't have been able to print what was actually on the said items.

    But the mugs were just a very small part of the reason that the crew were stood down.

    As is usual, the papers only concentrate on what makes a good headline, and is most likely to get their readers outraged.
    We are hearing the institute side of this. They have a whole PR department dedicated to pushing out their "message". And they are very skilled at what they do. When I read their statements, I am left with a feeling they are not saying more than they do say. Every word is very carefully chosen to convey a feeling that accords with their corporate decisions. Nothing is a lie. But the truth may not be how it is portrayed.

    And I wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk View Post
    We are hearing the institute side of this. They have a whole PR department dedicated to pushing out their "message". And they are very skilled at what they do. When I read their statements, I am left with a feeling they are not saying more than they do say. Every word is very carefully chosen to convey a feeling that accords with their corporate decisions. Nothing is a lie. But the truth may not be how it is portrayed.

    And I wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch01527 View Post
    One man’s “naught mug” is another man’s “hard core pornography” I guess.

    If one of my staff bought another member of staff a inappropriate mug as a laugh, and it was on company premises, I would have a word and tell them it was not acceptable and to remove it. Job done. They would not lose their job unless they has upset other staff members.

    If they ever engaged in real sexual harassment, bullying, racism ect they would be gone.

    That ability to use judgement is called leadership. Many organisations are now so politically correct that they have lost a sense of perspective. I do not know the details of the RNLI cases maybe there is more to the story than has been reported but at a surface level it does not look like good management. It is certainly poor PR management.
    Which is what happened at Whitby. It was all in the media reports at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penberth3 View Post
    I think the "joyride" incident quoted by JuanTwoThree refers to Scarborough, which was reported at about the same time as the Whitby incident.
    Juan TwoThree needs to comment on that because the "joyride" incident certainly wasn't part of the "porno mugs in a cupboard" case. Jersey was also referred to as a "joyride" incident, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    Juan TwoThree needs to comment on that because the "joyride" incident certainly wasn't part of the "porno mugs in a cupboard" case. Jersey was also referred to as a "joyride" incident, I believe.

    Richard
    I didn't hear anything about "joyriding" as regards St. Helier.

    The RNLI used that term in relation to Scarborough.

    Google has thrown up this news report:

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...ment-1-9116548
    I'm not a spokesman for the RNLI. I just happen to drive one of their lifeboats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    I didn't hear anything about "joyriding" as regards St. Helier.

    The RNLI used that term in relation to Scarborough.

    Google has thrown up this news report:

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...ment-1-9116548
    OK. The problem is that there have been so many of these "volunteer dismissal PR disasters" at the RNLI recently that, unless one is specific about the station concerned, it all gets a bit fuzzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    OK. The problem is that there have been so many of these "volunteer dismissal PR disasters" at the RNLI recently that, unless one is specific about the station concerned, it all gets a bit fuzzy.

    Richard
    And there will be plenty more in the future. Lots of stations have had to stand down volunteers over the years, for various sound reasons.

    All it needs is for one of those individuals to decide, in hindsight, that they have been unfairly treated, and they can now exact revenge on the RNLI by going to the press, get pictured pulling a sad face, and getting their fifteen minutes of fame.
    I'm not a spokesman for the RNLI. I just happen to drive one of their lifeboats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch01527 View Post
    Is there a management crisis at the RNLI? They seem to be lurching from one bad decision to another with resultant disastrous PR consequences.

    I have donated over 30 years to support their volunteers who I admire massively. It would be a real shame if their management lost the good will these brave men and women richly deserve.

    It is not racist or sexist to question overseas expenditures or the sacking of volunteers for a naughty mug in a cupboard. I suspect that most donations come from people who would ask such questions.
    Perhaps the best way is to contact the RNLI direct and ask, especially if you are a member.

    Newspapers always seem have an 'angle', and often when you look into the true facts it leaves you thinking that you cannot rely on them to give a balanced or accurate story.

    In this day and age PR seems impossible once a newspaper (or forum) takes a dislike to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Twothree View Post
    And there will be plenty more in the future. Lots of stations have had to stand down volunteers over the years, for various sound reasons.

    All it needs is for one of those individuals to decide, in hindsight, that they have been unfairly treated, and they can now exact revenge on the RNLI by going to the press, get pictured pulling a sad face, and getting their fifteen minutes of fame.
    The volunteers actually willing and able to go to sea and put their lives on the line to help others then, not the hundreds or even it seems thousands sitting shiny arsed on posh office chairs ?
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