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    Default Is this blue ensign legal?

    This boat has just anchored next to us in a small bay in Croatia. We like it here 'cos the graffiti makes us feel at home.



    But the real question is: Is a defaced blue ensign with a circle of EU stars in the middle actually legal tender?

    Should I dinghy over and perform a citizens arrest?

    Richard

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Do they do them in red and where can we buy them

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Are you authorized to make a citizens arrest in Croatia?

    Take a bottle of wine and try buying the flag from him.

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Is it considered to be transom flown like that?

    Otherwise, it doesn't belong to any organization, could dry your kitchen towel there...

    Actually by Croatian law might be illegal not to wear a proper ensign (e.g. beside this one).
    Last edited by GTom; 12-09-19 at 17:28.

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Why should it not be legal?

    You can buy blue ensigns with all kinds of symbols on them representing clubs and organisations and nobody objects. If he wants to fly one with the symbol of an organisation he is a member of, then good luck to him.

    Where can I get one?
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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Quite Legal I suspect but highly irregular.

    Its got the Union Flag so no ambiguity as to Nationality. No one except the Brits understand the red/blue/white bits and arcane rules on defacing the blue or red bit go above everyones heads except the ancient pompous clubs defending them. No one else cares.

    I fly the Cornish Ensign for instance as used by the Cornish Steamship Company (St Pirans Cross defaced with Union Flag) in France or England and no one has complained. Questioned yes, complained no.
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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Is he from the Cook Islands? It looks remarkably like their Ensign, which has got posters hereabouts hammering at their keyboards before.

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTom View Post
    Is it considered to be transom flown like that?

    Otherwise, it doesn't belong to any organization, could dry your kitchen towel there...

    Actually by Croatian law might be illegal not to wear a proper ensign (e.g. beside this one).
    I do believe that Croatian maritime law demands that an proper ensign is flown as well as the Croatian ensign from the spreader.

    Whether this is a proper ensign is another matter. If not, the fine will be swingeing.

    Richard

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTom View Post
    Is it considered to be transom flown like that?

    Otherwise, it doesn't belong to any organization, could dry your kitchen towel there...

    Actually by Croatian law might be illegal not to wear a proper ensign (e.g. beside this one).
    From the gaff when underway.... from a staff on the poop ( or taffrail ) when at anchor or alongside....

    Wrong shade of blue for Cook Islands... wrong number of stars...

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    Default Re: Is this blue ensign legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elecglitch View Post
    Is he from the Cook Islands? It looks remarkably like their Ensign, which has got posters hereabouts hammering at their keyboards before.
    The current Cook island flag 15 stars the EU has currently 27 until end of October.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Cook_Islands

    Legal if the yacht is registered in the cook islands.

    https://www.maritimecookislands.com/...ering-a-yacht/

    If I ever cancel my local yacht registration I will register in the cook islands as a flag of convenience.
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