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  1. #51
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    I think the most transferable systems for mast ascending come from caving rather than rock climbing. Cavers have been developing safe single rope techniques (SRT) for years and the static ropes and the absence of dynamic falls make this directly suitable for mast climbing. I caved for years using SRT in the Yorkshire Dales with some bigger trips to the Picos in Northern Spain in an (unsuccessful) search for a world depth record and to the Vercors including the awesome 300 metre single open shaft of the Scialet Pot 2. Only a single rope of around 10mm diameter is used, often wet and sometimes muddy. It's not going to work on halyard diameters greater than 11mm.

    So I do know about this kit. The frog technique is not difficult to use and the equipment is reasonably priced (especially in comparison to some truly horrible looking specialist yachty systems) but it must be certified equipment hence my specific recommendations. Yachties are fortunate that it is easy to set up a back-up line either for another person to operate or another static line to which is attached another ascender, or a prusik knot or a device like a figure of 8 to lower off with. For anyone interested you can practice with two ropes from a tree and go no higher than four feet off the ground. Several hours doing this and you can master it if you are careful and have some sense. Ascending is very easy - changing over to descending is the thing to master before going high (get help from a climbing centre if this is not clear) and I often simply reverse down with the ascenders rather than properly switch to descending. A good tip is to attach the bottom of the rope you are ascending to some thick shock cord to keep it under tension as you climb so it slides easily through the chest croll.

    There is an outline here - but don't get lost in the detail of crossing knots etc - there is none of that on a mast. You don't need the cowstails.
    https://technology.darkfrontier.us/Vertical/Frog/
    Last edited by Poey50; 03-10-19 at 23:05.

  2. #52
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete7 View Post
    The problem with a bosuns chair is it doesn't lift you quite high enough to see the top of the mast.

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    I could have gone a few inches higher but did not want to hit my head on the wind vane. One just has to select a decent chair
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    Last edited by Daydream believer; 04-10-19 at 07:39.
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  3. #53
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham_Wright View Post
    I bought the full body version and tried it yesterday. I must say it looks very well made but the leg straps are narrower than the pictures imply. I swapped back to the bosuns chair for yesterdays evolution.

    Trying it on a beam at home, suggested that I would lean uncomfortably backwards but on the mast it was ok.

    Needles to say, it came with no certification or instructions.
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  4. #54
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Nobody seems to have mentioned a webbing mast ladder running up the luff groove.

  5. #55
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Quote Originally Posted by richardabeattie View Post
    Nobody seems to have mentioned a webbing mast ladder running up the luff groove.
    See #2.

    (Bit of a problem with in-mast furling!)
    Last edited by Graham_Wright; 04-11-19 at 14:02.
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  6. #56
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Quote Originally Posted by richardabeattie View Post
    Nobody seems to have mentioned a webbing mast ladder running up the luff groove.
    I used to had one but found it not easy to climb. I went and fitted folding steps to my mast now I use the steps sitting in a chair tailed by SWMBO at the bottom of the mast.
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  7. #57
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogershaw View Post
    I used to had one but found it not easy to climb. I went and fitted folding steps to my mast now I use the steps sitting in a chair tailed by SWMBO at the bottom of the mast.
    That's what we do.

  8. #58
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Top Tip;

    don't have a row, and especially don't sign over power of attorney just before going up
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  9. #59
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    Splash the cash and lower the mast

  10. #60
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    Default Re: Going up the mast (solo) and what to expect at the top...

    There's a lot to be said for that especially with a new to the OP boat, so all the fittings and bits can be inspected and if necessary replaced at leisure - I would go this way even if I wasn't worried by heights !
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