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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohlin Karcher View Post
    What's the deepest reported rogue trough?
    I think that's off Durban South Africa, a feature of the ( Agulhas ? ) current is particularly nasty troughs rather than especially high waves - this is mentioned in some editions of Heavy Weather Sailing when the WWII cruiser HMS Edinburgh discovered such a trough the hard way , also thought maybe responsible for the loss of the liner Warratah and various disappearances, and featured in some fanciful novels.
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    Yes I've heard of those troughs, ships literally fall into them and keep going down when they splash into the valley.
    There were lots of stories doing the rounds in Grimsby, about one or two trawlers which sank without explanation or time to get on the radio. The explanation was huge quantities of gas, rising up from a hole in the seabed. The rising gas bubbles form a great pillar of bubbles or foam, the ship sails into the mousse and suddenly falls down the vertical tunnel of bubbles until it hits the seabed. Don't know if it's true..but very spooky!
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    The Ben Line cargo liner Bencruachan fell into a hole off Durban and survived but was slightly bent. 2nd May 1973.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohlin Karcher View Post
    Yes I've heard of those troughs, ships literally fall into them and keep going down when they splash into the valley.
    There were lots of stories doing the rounds in Grimsby, about one or two trawlers which sank without explanation or time to get on the radio. The explanation was huge quantities of gas, rising up from a hole in the seabed. The rising gas bubbles form a great pillar of bubbles or foam, the ship sails into the mousse and suddenly falls down the vertical tunnel of bubbles until it hits the seabed. Don't know if it's true..but very spooky!
    I had a set of pictures, not taken by me, of a drilling rig doing exactly that. Obviously in her case a gas pocket. The pictures were taken from a supply boat getting the hell out of Dodge at double ring full ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohlin Karcher View Post
    Yes I've heard of those troughs, ships literally fall into them and keep going down when they splash into the valley.
    There were lots of stories doing the rounds in Grimsby, about one or two trawlers which sank without explanation or time to get on the radio. The explanation was huge quantities of gas, rising up from a hole in the seabed. The rising gas bubbles form a great pillar of bubbles or foam, the ship sails into the mousse and suddenly falls down the vertical tunnel of bubbles until it hits the seabed. Don't know if it's true..but very spooky!
    That's one of the main theories to explain the Bermuda Triangle, I hadn't heard of it happening closer to home, that's really put me off my supper.
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    I blame creamola foam. Loads of cargo ships sunk during the war carrying cargoes of Creamola foam, or even worse, Andrews liver salts. Over time the containers corrode and then theres a great big explosion of foam and down goes the ship.
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    And another one, the Neptune Sapphire, also 1973, on her maiden voyage, same area, steamed into a hole and ring fractured in way of the bulkhead between hold 1 and hold 2. Towed in.



    There is a funny story about this one. The Master was thrown out of bed and immediately looked out of his cabin window... to see the bow of a ship going past. He ran to the wheelhouse and yelled at the OOW «*What the ****?»

    To which the officer of the watch replied That was our bow, Sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bouba View Post
    It’s also a story of how science was so certain then did a quick about face. And I’m sure the branch of science involved would not be a million miles away from the climatologists who also carry that same certitude today
    Science works on evidence. As soon as there was evidence for rogue waves, science accepted them, and as soon as there was evidence for anthropogenic global warming science accepted that. Eppe si muove, as we scientists say when confronted with wilful stupidity and ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seajet View Post
    That's one of the main theories to explain the Bermuda Triangle, I hadn't heard of it happening closer to home, that's really put me off my supper.
    Methane clathrates are the suspects, but since there is nothing whatsoever special about the Bermuda Triangle it's not quite clear what they are suspected of. This a cracking good read on the subject:



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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbleDuck View Post
    Science works on evidence. As soon as there was evidence for rogue waves, science accepted them, and as soon as there was evidence for anthropogenic global warming science accepted that. Eppe si muove, as we scientists say when confronted with wilful stupidity and ignorance.
    Aye, Galileo knew all about rogue waves.. His real name was actually Leo and as a young man he often would go sailing in his Laser in high winds encountering huge waves and then became known as Gale Leo this became corrupted over time to Galileo cos as he got older he worked more and more in the kitchen. Of course the biggest rogue wave he saw was in St Peters square when the Pope acknowledged his presence.
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