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  1. #1
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    Default If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?


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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    That’s nothing... P&O managed to park a large containership right under a lighthouse in the Singapore Strait...

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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    Quote Originally Posted by awol View Post
    Wow. Just wow.
    You never know, I might be right!

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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    Quote Originally Posted by flaming View Post
    Wow. Just wow.
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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    Is it really a surprise? How many thousands of accidents have as their root cause tired, bored, and distracted watch keepers. After screwing up, they do something stupid to cover-up/make-good their error. Disaster beckons.

    The mechanics of many, even most, big bank frauds such as Barings (Nick Leeson), Soc Gen, Daiwa, UBS, etc., are not that different.

    It's just what happens when human nature curdles with poor procedures. And I think the MAIB very much gets that.

    The realisation that all of us have such traits deep down somewhere is perhaps why we're all especially shocked when something like this happens!
    Last edited by dom; 03-10-19 at 10:52.

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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    'Drone' ships soon enough?

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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross84 View Post
    'Drone' ships soon enough?
    Well, if they navigate from safe waypoint to safe waypoint, they might be a rather good idea.

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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    Totally inexplicable as to why the OOW took the Autopilot off Track mode.
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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    Quote Originally Posted by awol View Post
    If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?
    Just leave your mobile phone in your cabin when on watch. Simples.
    Cynical Scottish very nearly retired engineer who sails a Gib'Sea 96.

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    Default Re: If they can't see rocks and a lighthouse, what chance do we have?

    I am surprised the report does not mention drug testing of watch keeper. I wonder how many are drugged up while on watch these days.

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