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    Default What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?


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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    Warps on drums

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    Thanks for that.

    Why have I never, ever seen warps on drums on any other yachts?

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    Quote Originally Posted by dancrane View Post
    Thanks for that.

    Why have I never, ever seen warps on drums on any other yachts?
    They're often on northern European boats, on the stern rail. Used for trailing warps in nasty weather.

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    For tying off to shore when anchored. Will be in one of his videos probably.

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    Used for stowing shore lines for use in the canales in southern Chile......

    I don't like drums.. I prefer 'balsas para verduras'

    Typical tie up is anchor plus two.... sometimes no anchor... just four lines..... as shown..
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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    I see, thanks. They look as if they'd be vulnerable to big deck-sweeping waves, but if that were so, Novak would hardly rely on them.

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Holden View Post
    Used for stowing shore lines for use in the canales in southern Chile......

    I don't like drums.. I prefer 'balsas para verduras'

    Typical tie up is anchor plus two.... sometimes no anchor... just four lines..... as shown..
    As Frank says, shore lines - very common in northern or southern high latitudes. Drum are common, but if you look at the pics in the link - laundry baskets and 'things' like spinnaker turtles or sailbags (the sort like kitbags - not the long sausages). Also common - reels of tape, nylon or dyneema - many manufacturers of the reels - but you also see the same tape reels in the Baltic and Med.

    https://www.sailmagazine.com/cruisin...ing-repertoire

    If you look at other photo of Pelagic - the helm station protrudes much more than the reels.

    I don't think you will find many yachts in high latitudes without shore lines, a plethora of immediately available anchors (and chimneys ).

    Jonathan.

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    Quote Originally Posted by dancrane View Post
    Why have I never, ever seen warps on drums on any other yachts?
    Because you don't see many yachts heading for the Patagonian canals and similar remote places. And many of those which are, will stow their long shorelines differently. Climbing-rope bags, mesh "troughs" with velcro tops, etc, but the deck reels aren't unique to Pelagic, I have seen them (in pictures) on other boats that visit such places.

    Pete

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    Default Re: What are these, aboard Skip Novak's boat?

    I see them a lot, in the higher latitudes, near or on the transom. They are often incorporated into the pushpit (in fact Pelagic is the only yacht I can think of with them located at the mast base (where they will be a nuisance if you need to work on the bow).

    But as Pete says unless you are in high latitudes you simply don't see 'deck reels' but you do see lots of tape 'drums'. in places with more benign weather. Pelagics' are fixed to the deck, or were when I saw her, though they might be simply clipped into place. They don't need to be fixed and could be stored in a lacker - they are simply a means to store, deploy and retrieve rope - that you will be using every day that you anchor (or as Frank implies to fix the position of the yacht in sometimes a tight location without using the anchor at all).

    We use shore lines quite often, in tight anchorages in Tasmania - (similar to the example in Frank's photo) we keep ours in sacks - and I have often wondered about using a simple domestic garden hose reel.

    Jonathan
    Last edited by Neeves; 09-10-19 at 10:17.

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