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    Default Kipling and seamanship

    I came across this:

    All things considered, if I were to embark on an ocean passage as a navigator today, I would not leave the dock without a GPS. However, knowing the limitations of AA batteries and electricity in general in a wet, salty environment, I would also bring along my sextant, Nautical Almanac and star-finder. I would also take to heart Rudyard Kipling’s warning to an Arabic ship’s master, or Nakoda:

    “The new ship here is fitted according to the reported increase of knowledge among mankind. Namely, she is cumbered end to end, with bells and trumpets and clock and wires, it has been told to me, can call voices out of the air of the waters to con the ship while her crew sleep. But sleep thou lightly. It has not yet been told to me that the Sea has ceased to be the Sea.”
    Anyone care to comment?

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    You could ask Alex if he holds to the advice.
    Life is too short to drink bad wine.

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    I note that NASA are trialling an Astra IIB Pro sextant for use on their planned Mars exped.....
    Maybe GPS has its limitations.

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    Quote Originally Posted by zoidberg View Post
    I note that NASA are trialling an Astra IIB Pro sextant for use on their planned Mars exped.....
    Maybe GPS has its limitations.
    As for 'Alex', I'm reminded of .....
    'That's a funny piece of water,' said Captain Hamilton - Joseph Conrad, The Shadow Line
    'In order to finish first, you've first got to finish'

    'Lead, log and lookout'....

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    But sleep thou lightly. It has not yet been told to me that the Sea has ceased to be the Sea.”

    That's the important bit.

    Plus, people have not ceased to be people, sometimes forgetful, negligent and downright stupid. And I include me in people
    Steve
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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    Quote Originally Posted by zoidberg View Post
    I note that NASA are trialling an Astra IIB Pro sextant for use on their planned Mars exped.....
    Maybe GPS has its limitations.
    I wonder what they might be
    Cynical Scottish very nearly retired engineer who sails a Gib'Sea 96.

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    Old, hard earned lessons will prevail. From submarining and I hazard a guess aviating, always have a backup to your backups backup.......

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    Plan A then plan B.
    No plan B?

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    Quote Originally Posted by capnsensible View Post
    Old, hard earned lessons will prevail. From submarining and I hazard a guess aviating, always have a backup to your backups backup.......
    Yup.

    I'm guessing there are no old, bold submariner skippers either.....

    Aside: I'm going to a short talk in Bath booksellers Toppings, in a few days, by one Richard Humphries, author of 'Under Pressure'. He will apparently take the lid off life in a detergent sub. I've always considered submariners as the most 'closed' of mil types.... they won't even talk to each other, never mind anyone else.

    Any good questions I should ask him?

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    Default Re: Kipling and seamanship

    Yes, is Omo or Bold the best grease cutter?

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