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  1. #71
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    Default Re: A tour of marinas in Spain - where do you suggest I go?

    If flying into Gib or Malaga, look at www.brunoscar.com. Small independent, good prices, great service, extras included and no rip off.

  2. #72
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    Default Re: A tour of marinas in Spain - where do you suggest I go?

    Hello evryone, I have a lame question about buying a mooring. For example this option http://www.navicularia.com/en/archiv...as-guardamar-2 is priced at 9500 EUR until 2026. How does this work?

    Do I buy from the local authority (i.e. marina, council, etc) or some owner is looking to sell his place? What's normally included? 9500 EUR seems to be pretty cheap if compared with quoted pa 3-4K rent options. Any other annual fees? What happens in 2026? Do I get to renew the lease?

    I have been to Guardamar many times in summer and would not mind having this marina as our base in Spain given close proximity to Alicante.

    thanks
    Last edited by AlexKT7; 16-11-19 at 23:41.

  3. #73
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    Default Re: A tour of marinas in Spain - where do you suggest I go?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexKT7 View Post
    Hello evryone, I have a lame question about buying a mooring. For example this option http://www.navicularia.com/en/archiv...as-guardamar-2 is priced at 9500 EUR until 2026. How does this work?

    Do I buy from the local authority (i.e. marina, council, etc) or some owner is looking to sell his place? What's normally included? 9500 EUR seems to be pretty cheap if compared with quoted pa 3-4K rent options. Any other annual fees? What happens in 2026? Do I get to renew the lease?

    I have been to Guardamar many times in summer and would not mind having this marina as our base in Spain given close proximity to Alicante.

    thanks
    The marinas in Spain belong to the state and are leased to concessionaries for a fixed term, who then rent the berths out. Presumably the one you are looking at is on sale from a private individual who has purchased the right to use that berth until the concession runs out in 2026. You need to check what monthly fees are due to the marina itself, which could be steep. At the end of the lease you lose the berth, but you might then be given the right of first refusal to renew at whatever price the (new) concession holder for the marina thinks they can get for it.

    You need to phone them up and ask.

  4. #74
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    Default Re: A tour of marinas in Spain - where do you suggest I go?

    Also ask if you need to join a club.

    Club de mar in Mallorca for example is for my size I think a e15000 joining fee which made the annual berth cost inc buying It and paying the service charges non viable

  5. #75
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    Default Re: A tour of marinas in Spain - where do you suggest I go?

    Quote Originally Posted by PEJ View Post
    .....fly to Barcelona, drive to Roses, .....
    The motorway drive from Barcelona to Empuriabrava and Rosas is actually quite lovely and one of my favourite motorways.
    If you have time drive up to Cap de Creus from Rosas for Salvador Dali inspired views. On the way drop into Hemingway’s Cadaques on the coast
    Then of course there is Dali’s house in Port Lligat
    .....you’ll need a couple days
    Last edited by DavidJ; 17-11-19 at 12:47.

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    Default Re: A tour of marinas in Spain - where do you suggest I go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Portofino View Post
    @ J rudge and any others with itchy feet .
    We’ve moved to Italy’s Ligurian coast , Marina d Loano to be precise but there are plenty of others .
    Ours was based on logistics of nearest base from Switzerland - shorter drive .

    Boat wise we have up and down that coast plenty of times and sure it’s less interesting than SoF .However Monaco is 2 hrs and Lerins ( Cannes islands 3 hrs ) so it’s not like we have been exiled etc .Plus a huge fresh cruising ground to our E and S = Elba etc .

    But the point is this ........a pleasant upside ....
    It’s cheap , refreshingly cheap .Large Beer €4.50 not €7/8 as Cote d Azur .
    Yard labour €40 / hr as opposed to 70/80 .
    My berth ( 14m ) is €6600 + tax so under €8 k all in no service charge just leccy on meter est €4/6 00 ? currently renting out by SoF for €17 K pa took a week to find a tenant .

    It’s a posh one by Liguria standards there are even cheaper .
    We choose it on location not price .
    Meals out can be peanuts like starters €5\7 and mains teens .
    Pizza Marguerite €6 etc etc .
    There’s some “ posh “ places like Alassiso nearby ,

    Genoa airport is 55 mins away with regulators flights into London and Nice 2 hrs away .

    Sea bottom is sand and the people are really warm + nice .

    It’s just if you are wanting to escape without the hassle of expensive SoF and availability commitments you could try the Liguria for a year and boat into the SoF for a sniff around.

    We bought 2 years they do discount if you buy more years . Our tenant s contract ends Sept 21
    So far I have not regretted it .Its different in a positive kinda way .

    Take stabs for example .....

    Obviously I follow the threads which mostly seem to be rolling @ anchor stuff on the tables going flying etc etc .,,,buts that’s just shear boat density / crowded areas / wakes etc .
    Fully understand and sympathise feel the pain etc etc in the Cote d Azur .

    How ever in the Liguria all that’s a none event , none starter because of the low density , there just isn’t the crowdedness to make unpleasant wakes to stimulate any sales in stabs .
    We made the move this year from menorca where we had moved to from Mallorca. Could not agree more with Jrudge and I wished we had moved earlier. Spent 6 weeks moving to the Bay of Salerno in the footsteps of MedMilo n- Marina d'Arechi. the journey was incredible especially Corsica where we spent a ton of time. We avoided N Sardinia in general except as a transit point. Part of me wishes we had done longer in Corsica/Elba. Where we are now is cheaper all around and excellent boating with plenty of culture onshore and lots of islands in either direction and also the posh stuff on the Amalfi Coast to give SWMBO the occasional good night out. The marina is fairly basic and I know BartW didnt stay long but it is functional and seems to work thus far. Overall totally agree with all the above. Had the best pizza i ever had for €5 washed down with a jug of wine that cost less and didn't taste like rat's poison. Basically something for everyone and wonderfully chaotic in a nice way. If you join in the humour and chaos the local people will do anything for you and we have loved the fact that you can usually always find somewhere to berth despite everything supposedly being full!!

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