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    Default Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    In previous posts I was asking advice re cruising to France in 2020. It was suggested to me (not on this forum) that I would need a RYA or similar sailing qualification and cert to cruise my own boat in France. Checking the RYA website, my understanding is this is not the case, but my friend is insistent I do need one.

    Can anyone enlighten me on this? Do I need one or not?

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    No you do not need a qualification. Your friend is mistaken.
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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    I have no sailing qualifications whatsoever, just experience. I have been sailing yachts to France since 1995, and my boat has been berthed permanently in La Rochelle since 2015. You definitely do not need any qualifications. Keep in mind that Brexit might change this.

    However what you do need are documents to prove Ownership, Insurance and VAT paid status. Originals not photocopies (if they are available e.g. insurance is almost entirely online now). Having said that it's only the Douaniers and/or the Gendarmes who bother about such things. Marinas just want to see your credit card!

    Keith

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ohlin Karcher View Post
    No you do not need a qualification. Your friend is mistaken.

    It's about the last freedom that we have in the UK.
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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    Depends on whether it's defined as a Sailboat or a boat with an engine exceeding 6hp (as of 2008) it appears. If it's a Sailboat nope nada (unless inland waters?), if it's a boat with an engine over 6hp then you're going to need a permit of one kind or another.

    Disclaimer: No boat, little sailing experience, never been to france (water wise)

    https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/fra...g-boat-permits
    https://uk.france.fr/en/holiday-prep/boating-france
    https://www.french-waterways.com/pra...ulations-fees/
    https://anglophone-direct.com/boating-sailing-france/ << is the only source that I've found that includes "Unless it's British registered".... which is somewhat worrying.
    Last edited by Luminescent; 31-10-19 at 20:43.
    Disclaimer: I am not an experienced sailor nor do I own a boat.

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminescent View Post
    Depends on whether it's defined as a Sailboat or a boat with an engine exceeding 6hp (as of 2008) it appears. If it's a Sailboat nope nada (unless inland waters?), if it's a boat with an engine over 6hp then you're going to need a permit of one kind or another.

    Disclaimer: No boat, little sailing experience, never been to france (water wise)

    https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/fra...g-boat-permits
    https://uk.france.fr/en/holiday-prep/boating-france
    https://www.french-waterways.com/pra...ulations-fees/
    https://anglophone-direct.com/boating-sailing-france/ << is the only source that I've found that includes "Unless it's British registered".... which is somewhat worrying.
    Boat is a Jeanneau 439 sailing boat, with 54hp engine.

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    Surly you'll need a CoC for insurance purposes?

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    When we had a yacht we took the original insurance policy, proof of vat paid, vhf cert, Yachtmaster cert, RYA diesel course cert and the SSR.

    Plus of course passports.

    We were boarded 3 times in probably 10 years (2 x Douane, 1 x Gendarmes) and were ONLY ever asked for the SSR and passports.

    It did seem to take them an inordinate amount of time to copy these details though

    Be warned, I saw a post on here recently where someone had been heavily fined for having a SSR copy!

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross84 View Post
    Surly you'll need a CoC for insurance purposes?
    Not true. I don't have a Certificate of Competence, and I've been insuring UK registered yachts for nearly 40 years. Not once has such a thing been mentioned by any insurer.

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    Default Re: Cruising to France - do I need a yacht qualification of any kind?

    Quote Originally Posted by WalshamUK View Post
    I have no sailing qualifications whatsoever, just experience. I have been sailing yachts to France since 1995, and my boat has been berthed permanently in La Rochelle since 2015. You definitely do not need any qualifications. Keep in mind that Brexit might change this.

    However what you do need are documents to prove Ownership, Insurance and VAT paid status. Originals not photocopies (if they are available e.g. insurance is almost entirely online now). Having said that it's only the Douaniers and/or the Gendarmes who bother about such things. Marinas just want to see your credit card!

    Keith
    Plus SSR!

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