View Poll Results: Would you use siganlk on a windows laptop

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  • not interested really

    16 64.00%
  • yes but must be easy to install

    3 12.00%
  • yes, don't mind some command line in a terminal

    4 16.00%
  • using it already

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  1. #1
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    Default Signalk - would you use it?

    Signalk is gaining ground but still very much seen as a bit geeky by the majority it seems. I've been approached to lend a hand putting together a 'howto' to load signalk onto windows and get it running.
    So how easy would it need to be for most people to be interested?
    At the moment there's some command line stuff to load node and tweak a few things, all cut and paste but maybe off putting for many 'hit the on button on the laptop but not much more' sailors.

    Briefly, signalk has been likened to a swiss army knife for any kind of boat data, so if you have say nmea0183 depth, gps , wind etc you can point the usb/serial adaptor to signalk then SK will do the rest, create handy dashboards, save the data, send it to the could, send it to opencpn, do what you want with it in a webpage on any device. Really handy once you get into it.

    So how easy to install should it be? , would many be interested?

    http://signalk.org/
    http://signalk.org/demo.html
    Last edited by GHA; 08-11-19 at 09:33.

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    I thought that this was going to be about stripey toothpaste.

    Richard

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    I don't use NMEA in any flavour, so don't see the need.
    Steve
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    not interested BUT, explain how someone would be going about using it.

    You have a yacht a few analogue instruments I guess NMEA0183 in and outs all working fine.
    So, you'd need to rip them out of their housings, find the right cables, add extra cables and route them to the chart table or wherever is handy to install this h/w. Then you have to wire them all up, do the code copy pasting, test it that it works (I'll be damned if it works first time!) and eventually you have data flowing to your SignalK.

    is that the expected process or am I missing something? Mind haven't spent more than 3-4mins looking at it a few years ago...
    if so, I guess not many are going to be interested
    you have to have a good idea of what you're going to gain by going this route, so write a bigger post trying to indulge ppl

    cheers

    V.

    PS. otoh, having all my N2K data shown on one of the unused ipads my wife is collecting from her work, wouldn't be a bad idea, especially if I don't have to design the interface with all the gauges and stuff and I can just collect/select ready made widgets. That I'd be interested in (but I guess it's another thing altogether)!

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by vas View Post
    not interested BUT, explain how someone would be going about using it.

    You have a yacht a few analogue instruments I guess NMEA0183 in and outs all working fine.
    So, you'd need to rip them out of their housings, find the right cables, add extra cables and route them to the chart table or wherever is handy to install this h/w. Then you have to wire them all up, do the code copy pasting, test it that it works (I'll be damned if it works first time!) and eventually you have data flowing to your SignalK.

    is that the expected process or am I missing something? Mind haven't spent more than 3-4mins looking at it a few years ago...
    if so, I guess not many are going to be interested
    you have to have a good idea of what you're going to gain by going this route, so write a bigger post trying to indulge ppl

    cheers

    V.

    PS. otoh, having all my N2K data shown on one of the unused ipads my wife is collecting from her work, wouldn't be a bad idea, especially if I don't have to design the interface with all the gauges and stuff and I can just collect/select ready made widgets. That I'd be interested in (but I guess it's another thing altogether)!
    If you're a bit geeky & like arduinos then getting analogue instruments might be of interest, signalk running on a server does make it easy to send the data over udp/tcp, but doubt if many would be up for that. If you've a laptop with nmea data going into it already then it can be very useful , N2K data as well if you have a can/usb adaptor. Lots on signalk and a (very basic, loads more in it) demo in the links in the first post.

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    It needs a cheaper gateway. A pi should be able to do the same job as the 300usd ikommunicate gateway.

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    Some information about what it's useful for and what software it lives in might be useful! Saying "SignalK" on its own doesn't mean much to most of us. I might be interested if I knew what it does and what its software environment is - but at the moment I don't even know IF I can use it and WHAT it does! The name is probably descriptive if you know what it does, but it isn't if you don't.

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by JBJag27 View Post
    It needs a cheaper gateway. A pi should be able to do the same job as the 300usd ikommunicate gateway.
    cant you use a pi or whatever? I guess the s/w if free (if you can configure it)

    btw GHA, can I use one of my leftover ESP32S as a N2K -> SignalK wifi gateway? it's got wifi and it's got a canbus chip connected and working. Any s/w pointers?

    too busy till Monday by the looks of it so wont have time to search the web. On my 5min search I found a few apps for android and ios (no free ones for ios obviously!) but not sure what out of the existing data flowing is xlated and supported by this thing. Will come back after I do my homework

    V

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    I currently use Navmonpc to display time histories of NMEA data, typically true wind speed and direction. It is amazing how much more insight you gleen from seeing the variations rather than just looking at a gauge. It is a little clunky and I would be keen to view and log more parameters and other inputs. I already have a laptop with NMEA to USB converters. Can I install and run without the requirement to purchase extra equipment? I would be happy to invest in more equipment is sold on the idea.
    Angus

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    Default Re: Signalk - would you use it?

    As it stands it is very much geeky. The "whats in it for me" factor is very low for most people.

    SignalK is a messaging hub, with some web interfaces. To make any use of it, you need to know why you would want to, which is not very clear from the website.

    A typical use case might be - I want to see my instrument data on my iPhone, however you then need hardware, either going down the Pi route, or using the iKommuncate device which is at least more plug and play.

    Once you are in the world of creating your own sensors or working out how to receive data from an analogue thing, you have unfortunately gone over the head of all but the geeks.

    Full disclosure, I am in the geek camp, but I have been struggling to see the need for it, beyond a means of pushing data to websockets.

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