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    Default Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    We're going from LT to Shotley on Monday and I can't decide whether to go inside or outside the Whiting and Cutler Banks.
    The tide works out nicely for a change, in that the whole trip will be in daylight, hopefully.
    My initial instinct says outside the banks, plenty of sea room.
    However, the wind will be F4 NNW, and I want to be in smoother water, the boat goes quicker, and it's easier in general.. so is it worth going inside the banks, as the wind will have a smaller fetch off the marshes, whereas being downwind of the banks might raise some standing waves?
    On the chart it says 'overfalls on the ebb' SW of Orford Ness, these can only be caused by the Whiting Bank.
    Does that suggest overfalls to the SW of the Whiting Bank, in the strongest part of the flood?
    The Hollesley Bay Channel has a name and a white sector on the Orford Ness Lighthouse, which I think I can take as a positive indicator for going inside the banks..although aimed at northbound vessels of course.

    If any locals have done the same, what do you recommend, TIA
    Last edited by Ohlin Karcher; 15-11-19 at 16:16.
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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Getting inside the Whiting bank will mean some coast hugging around Orford Ness. I would keep 2 or 3 miles off of Aldeburgh, head for the gap between the Bawdsey bank and the Shipwash. It barely adds any distance, the inner route is likely to be pot city.
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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Thanks yes I see what you mean, it's well worth keeping further iffshore than I had initially thought. Nice one
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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRainbow View Post
    Getting inside the Whiting bank will mean some coast hugging around Orford Ness. I would keep 2 or 3 miles off of Aldeburgh, head for the gap between the Bawdsey bank and the Shipwash. It barely adds any distance, the inner route is likely to be pot city.
    +1.

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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    8 hrs of tide with you , easily doable in that time

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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ohlin Karcher View Post
    However, the wind will be F4 NNW, and I want to be in smoother water, the boat goes quicker, and it's easier in general.. so is it worth going inside the banks, as the wind will have a smaller fetch off the marshes, whereas being downwind of the banks might raise some standing waves?
    Standing waves? F4 wind over tide? You will able to take your billiard table & play a few rounds on the way
    It is all down to the fact that my wife does not understand me !!

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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream believer View Post
    Standing waves? F4 wind over tide? You will able to take your billiard table & play a few rounds on the way
    Perhaps our slightly nervewracking experiences of the Wells Bar have made me hypersensitive to squiggly lines on the chart..
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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Might be an idea to update your charts though, Orford Light was decommissioned 6 years ago so any sectors shown are ancient history!

    I've done that trip scores of times and never seen overfalls worhy of the name.

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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bumbulum View Post
    Might be an idea to update your charts though, Orford Light was decommissioned 6 years ago so any sectors shown are ancient history!

    I've done that trip scores of times and never seen overfalls worhy of the name.
    New charts on the way
    Thanks for the reassurance about the overfalls
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    Default Re: Orford to Landguard: The Whiting Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Bumbulum View Post
    Might be an idea to update your charts though, Orford Light was decommissioned 6 years ago so any sectors shown are ancient history!

    I've done that trip scores of times and never seen overfalls worhy of the name.
    Going North with the ebb can be interesting where the overfalls are shown on the chart, I have only done it in lightish winds but even so it was distinctly bumpy until past Orfordness. I agree that outside you are less likely to find pots.

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