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    Of course I am.

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    Wow!

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    Just seen you on another post about guns.................ducks, guns, quiet.......MMmmmmmmmm

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    You fibber it's Tom Senilic by now surely?

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    Just seen you on another post about guns.................ducks, guns, quiet.......MMmmmmmmmm

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    Very tasty.
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    Hi Old Git

    Agree that noise could be a problem but with properly silenced boats this can be minimised. I have a big V8 in mine but the exhaust discharges underwater and the noise is well muffled. PWCs are a bit of a problem as they tend to be very noisy and not a lot can be done about it.

    I just think that its a shame that as Windermere was one of the few remaining places for inland power boaters, to lose it is a real shame. I always advocate that if I don't like the noise generated by the ski boats and PWCs around falmouth, I just avoid that area and go where its quiet. (eg up the river where there is an 8Kn speed limit) There is enough room for us all out there and perhaps if those who wanted to have a quiet time stuck to one end of the lake and those who wanted to have a blast stuck to the other, it may well have worked. Instead, one group has now totally lost out to the other. I'm not convinced that the wash argument stacks up. Watching the local lakes down here, get a decent wind blowing and there are more waves than any boat kicks up.

    There will always be the idiot fraternity (as witnessed from my boat last night when a 2.6m rib shot out of the marina at about 20Kn If anything was entering at the time, there would have been a nasty accident) but again, I believe that zoning and a level of tolerance was exhibited, windermere could still have been enjoyed by all.

    Where would we be now if there had been a speed limit on Coniston when Donald Campbell was around!!

    Thanks for your reply.

    JH

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    Callisto, I agree. It is a shame.

    I'm still trying to find someone that has visited Windermere often and experienced this noise issue. General concensus seem to be "what noise issue?".

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    I propose a ban on any boats over 22feet in length.
    Ken

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    I would like to propose a ban on any boats over the length of mine. This would have the following advantages:

    1. I would not have to walk past all the beautiful 37 ft Sealines, wishing I owned one, to get to my 24 ft Bayliner

    2. I would save money as opposed to finally giving in and buying a 37 ft with money I haven't got

    3. I would be happy curled up in my tiny bunk, knowing that at least everybody else is as uncomfortable as me

    4. There would be more space in the marina which would be handy as I am new to boats and need a lot of room to manouevre

    I would also like to ban all boats newer than mine, cleaner than mine, and ban all cars nicer than mine.

    Only kidding, really
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    Callisto, I agree. It is a shame.

    I'm still trying to find someone that has visited Windermere often and experienced this noise issue. General concensus seem to be "what noise issue?".

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    But the main thrust of the LDNPA's argument was not noise. It was the incompatability of different lake users' requirements.
    They created, under the Countryside Act 1968, and propose to enforce the byelaws to "minimize potential conflict between activities and users..."
    Their solution was the 10mph limit. Others felt that zoning or training or skills licensing would achieve the same ends.

    In their Vision for Windermere, the Lake, 2005 in the Windermere Management Strategy it is true that
    A1 - Vision: the first bullet point is "a beautiful and peaceful lake" but that was not the main thrust of their argument.

    For noise we still have model boat and plane enthusiasts (bafflingly not affected by the ban) and the large ferries with their Jazz Cruises and disco and wedding party nights.

    It is still a shame that traditional activities have had to stop, perhaps as a result of the PWC antics, but I am willing to bet there will be no turning back now.

    On Sunday a water-skier was running up and down the North Basin at full skiing speed waving and shouting at all boats. They had some girls wearing No-Ban T shirts in the boat.
    I can't see that these tactics will help any future negotatiations to relax the speed limit for events or special reasons.

    Apparently the wardens had two boats in the area and were monitoring the situation. It would have been more entertaining if the girls had got their "tits out for the lads".

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    Lakesailor

    About your Sunday morning water skier.....

    That is exactly what I was saying in my earlier post. The idiots will spoil it and make the arguments of the genuine and dare i say sensible boaters unwinnable as the authorities will have all the ammunition they need to reinforce their position!

    If the ski boat in question is a forumite, my apologies for the idiot reference, however, that sort of behaviour will not help the cause.

    All I can say is I'm glad to be on the coast.

    Cheers
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