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    Default Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    I have been sailing for the last 4 seasons having both enjoyed racing and cruising on 34-55ft yachts.These however are totally out of my price range. I am keen on the idea of a small lifting keel vessel which I can trailer and handle easily, my budget is up to 7000. I have done some research on the internet and like the look of the Swift 18 ETAP 20 Jaguar 21 but don't know their track record. What is the most popular boat around this size? Can some of you old sweats out there help me in my choice?

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    Depending on your price range and tastes, you might wish to consider an Evolution. They made a 19' (I think), a 22' and a 26'. We had the 22 for a while. It was pretty quick and quite nicely finished below. It was probably about as big as you'd ever want to tow on the road regularly (8'2" beam) and a complete pain to recover because it sat in a partial mould of its own bottom on the trailer so there were no "hard" points to locate it easily. It was also very difficult to antifoul and scrub!

    We had great fun on inland and sheltered water with it but it was far too light for the sea in anything much above a F4 in the waters we used to sail.

    Although we did tow it a few times with a car, you'd really want a 4X4 to give you complete independence on slipways.

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    My Anderson 22 is quick and sea worthy 4 berths but cramped with 4 aboard over night. Personally I think that about 18 to 20 feet is as big as you want to be trailing regularily.Bigger is OK if you have a 4x4 and a safe method of raising the mast without relying on brute strength,

    Have a look at the pics in the links below.For the Anderson 22 website and in photobox for pics of my boat.

    http://www.anderson22class.co.uk/

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    Parker did a nice small lift keeler (the 21?). There new 24 is very nice.

    The Seal 22 is also a good boat wich sails OK.

    Aslo the First 21 is a nice boat but probably out of the price range.

    Pandora (22ft) also cone in a lift keel version - I had a bilge keeler and that sailed well.

    I have just moved up to a super seal 26 - slighly out of you range 12- 15K but a nice boat. It is also a lift keeler - allows me to get in and out of Keyhaven.

    Good luck

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    Trouble is ... a high proportion of trailer sailers disappeared off my list simply for being too ugly! I agree with the earlier comment about size! If you are planning to use it for proper trailer sailing think long and hard before venturing over 22 foot. Even if you have an approapriate tow vehicle the mast will be difficult to handle without a couple of mates or an A frame. Your budget puts you in a difficult category. There isn't much about between 5K and 10K. I would be loooking at an ETAP (good reputation, well made, double skinned) or a Parker 21. Swift 18's are good but expensive.

    And finally, Pay at least as much attention to the trailer as the yacht. You need 100% confidence in your trailer to enjoy trailer sailing to the full!

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    We had a Hunter Medina(20 ft) and now have a Hunter Delta(25 ft). We never got round to the trailering bit, but intend to one day, be aware that it does take quite sometime around 4 hours to get the boat on and off the trailer. We sail the solent mainly and enjoy the extra freedom a proper lift keeler gives you with regards to mooring on the beach and acess to area's other yachts can't reach. Performance for both of these boats is good, but accomodation is slightly comprimised by the keel lifting arangements.

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    It depends on what you will be using the boat for. If you want to go racing or just want high performance, then any of the Micro 18s would be ideal. The Swift 18 was designed to the Micro 18 rule, but is a lot slower than most other varieties. The Hunter Medina is slightly larger and is a super wee boat.

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    Agree . It depends how you envisage your sailing. Do you want a little big boat or a big little boat ? Do you see yourself coastal cruising and on your way up to a much bigger boat, or do you want to explore or ditch crawl the areas your trailer can get the boat to?
    Some years ago I went from a sailing cruiser to a Drascombe Longboat Cruiser and had enormous fun for a couple of seasons.Trailerable behind the family car, easy to launch and recover (although heavier than you would think- bombproof constuction),went like the clappers under sail ( huge drive from a loose-footed main) and an 8hp Yamaha made it fly.Plus you could row it, and run it up a beach, and it was unsinkable.I remember being out on some very dirty days indeed, and arriving in various ports around the Forth, to the astonishment of onlookers,with the boat still sailing,half full of water !

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    Hunter 19 is a cracking boat - received a fantastic used boat write up in PBO few years back. Thing is, at 1500 for a very good one, plus or sometimes including trailer, you get a whole lot of boat for your money.
    Colvic Watson slideshow video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RayUzX7LZQ

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    Default Re: Advice on buying a Lifting Keel trailer sailer

    The Hunter 19 or slightly later Europa on the same hull, just different cabin moulding are both superb boats. Brilliant to sail, surprisingly quick, and tough as old boots. Trouble is I don't think that they were made with a lifting keel, or if they were then there can't have been many made.

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