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    Default Re: Why I dont visit Salcombe

    Er... Wot did happen to Island Cruising Club?
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    Most places in the UK charge for anchoring - it's not unusual at all. The idea of the charge is to pay for navigation aids, lights, buoyage, not to mention the upkeep of an area of natural beauty. Salcombe, Dartmouth, Newtown Creek, Beaulieu are just some that I can think of.

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    Default Re: Why I dont visit Salcombe

    That doesn't make legally or morally correct. The upkeep of the 'areas of natural beauty' are mostly paid for by the people living in those areas through huge council tax bills, and I should know, I live in one!

    Just check out the average cost for the water bills alone for Devon and Cornwall, we're ALREADY paying way above most of you for the upkeep of the beaches and estuaries that are enjoyed by all the visitors free of charge.

    We don't want to be charged for anchoring in addition to that lot!!

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    Default Re: Why I dont visit Salcombe

    The Island Cruising Club went bankrupt and had to sell off the two Brixham trawlers they 'owned'. A good friend of mine worked for the club and lost her job when it went.

    It had been apparent for many years that it had survived purely on the goodwill of the membership and loans, but ran out of support and money in the end.

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    Default Re: Why I don\'t visit Salcombe

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    Most places in the UK charge for anchoring - it's not unusual at all. The idea of the charge is to pay for navigation aids, lights, buoyage, not to mention the upkeep of an area of natural beauty. Salcombe, Dartmouth, Newtown Creek, Beaulieu are just some that I can think of.

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    er, no they bloody don't, unless by most places in the UK you mean between the Solent and and Dartmouth, which is I am afraid, contrary to popular belief, not most places in the uk.

    Also, I would like to know how much of the moneys collected actually go to Trinity house, do you happen to know? I put it that most money pays the wages of the man collecting it, which makes it extortion and nothing less.

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    Default Re: Why I don\'t visit Salcombe

    "Sorry to bring this up"

    Don't be Woofy, I wish to Christ more people did. Whichever way you look at these charges, they're a local rip off - nothing less!!

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    Default Re: Why I dont visit Salcombe

    Maybe some places in the UK do - but lots dont, and its almost unheard of in the rest of the world.

    That list of sevices etc begs the obvious question of "what are taxes for?" Are we increasingly to be charged twice for everything in Gordon Brown's socialist asylum?

    I reckon a place like Salcombe would lose a lot of tourist business without any boats - we are doing them a favour not the other wayy round. And just like the French towns that pay Ryanair to bring in planeloads of tourists, I reckon Salcombe's burghers ought to pay us yotties for bringing in tourists both on water and by car and chara. 80p / meter pernight payment would easily be offset by my crews wine and food spending, let alone what she can do in the town's boutiques!
    this post is a personal opinion, and you should not base your actions on it.

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    Default Re: Why I don\'t visit Salcombe

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    Also, I would like to know how much of the moneys collected actually go to Trinity house, do you happen to know? I put it that most money pays the wages of the man collecting it, which makes it extortion and nothing less.


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    Just to be pedantic for a moment; I may be wrong, but I thought that Trinity House was responsible for the offshore aids to navigation (including lighthouses etc) and that the "inshore" stuff was the responsibility of the local harbour authority. If that is the case then none of our hard earned cash would or should be going to Trinity House.

    On your main point I agree entirely. Particularly in Salcombe, where there are precious few facilities, I always feel that the Harbour staff turn up demanding that you pay them so that they can then come out to get more money from you. They are always miserable too! At most other places at least you get a smile and friendly advice; at Dartmouth they almost make it a pleasure to hand over money!

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    Default Funnily enough...

    .. Last night I e-mailed a link for this thread to both Salcombe HM office and South Hams Council.

    A fair bet then that someone has seen it even if they don't feel the urge to reply.

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    Default Unless...

    ... sailorjean is the spokesperson.

    To add a bit of balance, my daughter adores the place so we have visited several times per year lately.

    I'm forced to agree with the general feeling about the staff's attitude. I know we are in England but surely the international technique of making it a pleasure to hand over our money ought to be well established here now.

    Also, they really ought to be offering a bit more in the way of facilities for the money. Forget the mooring fees, how much would a yacht full pay over the weekend if they went ashore and back using the taxi once during the day, and once in the evening? Say 6 crew X 4 trips X 1.50.. 36.00, and still no offer of a free shower. The yacht club facilities are out of the way and rather limited and Egermont is a bit on the poor side (but the showers are bloody hot - too hot sometimes).

    The main saving grace is that provisioning is now a lot cheaper now the supermarket has gone from Whitestrand. What is it now, another Phat Face probl'y!

    In the balance, it would be great if there was a bit more VFM. I guess the council feel that visitors (mainly second home owners or their 'guests'), are causing so much financial hardship for the locals that they had better just fleece them at every turn to help balance the books.

    Would be interesting to do a comparison with The Yealm. Staffing on a pro-rata basis (residents and visitors) seems a bit out if you ask me.

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