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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    No I'm not saying that there is no need for a liferaft when crossing the channel , it up to the individual,to take what ever safety equipment they feel necessary, I just dont think its a neccessity . Cant remember hearing many rescues from liferafts from pleasure crafts . Where do you draw the line ?? Accidents , especially fire can happen coastal or on a couple hour trip of an afternoon . should all craft carry liferafts all of the time ?
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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    Thats not logical.

    15 miles offshore you hit a container and are sinking fast - you either get into the cold water and wait for say 20 to 60 minutes or get into a liferaft.

    Do you remove the liferaft when crssing the channel with friends - or do you always sail in convoy?

    Even in compamy you are safrer in a liferaft than without one - friends cannot always get to you to rescue you in fog.heavy seas etc. There are many situations where a liferaft could save lives even when in Convoy - the fastnet race was ijn effect in convoy.
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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    personally this is my 'solution'.

    at 3m, 10 seconds to launch and bearing in mind that I am only going to be doing a Xchannel in good conditions, plus grab bag with flares, waterproof HH and life jackets..........I am happy that it meets my (and crews) needs.

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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    I have never earned, nor intend to earn a penny from selling liferafts. :-)
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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

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    cos its already been said that the auto life jackets won't work.

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    and you trust your liferaft to inflate correctly implicitly?

    the "safety crew" are doing a flippin good job... I take it some ppl here don't leave the house without:
    Total Sun Block
    Dark Sun Glasses
    Bright Dayglow clothing
    Mobile phone
    Spare Mobile phone
    Cash stashed in different pockets
    Change of underwear

    The safety of a boat and it's crew is the skippers responsibility. I would hope the skipper would make a good judgement on the nessecity of kit required for a passage. IMO it does NOT follow that a liferaft is automatically required for a X Channel trip. Sailing in company is one instant of a lesser requirement.

    Consider the Law of averages - how many times do you go X Channel and how many times have you needed the liferaft (and not as a seat!). If I was always off over the channel then I'd probably have one.

    According to Paul - we should not go X Channel without a Liferaft - ok what about EPIRB? Should we not ALL have one of these too?

    Quit telling us what equipment we MUST have ...

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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    We agree it is up to the individual - I do not want imnposed rules.

    If possible - yes, craft should carry liferafts all the time.
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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    OY VAY!! such a price already, my life, i've been rumbled
    do you good discount boy!!

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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

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    Thats not logical.

    15 miles offshore you hit a container and are sinking fast - you either get into the cold water and wait for say 20 to 60 minutes or get into a liferaft.


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    So whats the difference between going X Channel and going coastal ??

    I don't disagree that a liferaft is a reasonable precaution ...

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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

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    According to Paul - we should not go X Channel without a Liferaft - ok what about EPIRB? Should we not ALL have one of these too?

    Quit telling us what equipment we MUST have ...



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    Could you please try reading what I write.

    I have cleary stated that it up to the skipper and that no rules should be imposed ... so tell me where I am telling you anything that you MUST have!!

    Please tell me where I have stated that you must not go across the channel without a liferaft? I have not stated that anywhere.

    So you can carry on not understanding, not reading or you can maybe try to be sensible and understand the balance of points being made.
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    Default Re: Do we need to carry liferafts

    Shouldn't that have been;

    OY VAY!! such a price already, my life (raft) [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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