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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Turkeys voting for Christmas

    Can't be bothered to talk about decks.

    No, I don't sell boats, dimwit - I would have thought that you'd know that by now.

    If you think that boats are the only things that have teak decking on them, you are very much mistaken, caravans (ergh), specialist trailers, balconies, swimming pools, hot tubs - you name.

    OK, get off your high horses and have a proper conversation about something - I don't care if its been done to death - if it has, then don't reply

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    Default Re: Red Diesal IMHO

    I would normally be amazed that someone perceptive enough to recognise teak from plastic cannot see the difference between boats and cars (road vehicles). In your case I will clearly have to make an exception.

    To assist - road vehicles go on roads and are required to pay additional excise duty on the fuel they use doing so. This is supposed to contribute to the infrastructure but such direct links in excise/funding tend to get rather blurred over time. Boats only travel on roads as a guest of such vehicles - that would of course be paying to be there in the first place.

    If you use your landrover to drive around and around in a field you own you are not required to pay this duty and can use red diesel/ chip shop oil or whatever you wish. Unfortunately if you subsequently wish to travel on the road you will need to completely purge your fuel system as a by product of the dye/marker used. Equally you are not required to pay vehicle excise duty either if you remain off the road (and have completed the appropriate declaration) - neither, posssibly surprisingly to you, do boats.

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    Default Re: Turkeys voting for Christmas

    >>>
    How many civil servants and local govt employees do you know with boats?
    >>>

    Me beastie, me do that thing. And have several freinds in the same bracket. All people who would be in the box labeled "forced to give up" if red went. All people who sacrifice a great deal to be able to boat at all. Violins please:-)

    As usual, tax changes smack the less well off first.

    But I'm off home soon and there is some decent beer in the fridge. Plus SWMBO is back on the strength so off to the boat tomorrow.
    Two beers please, my friend is paying.

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    Default Re: Turkeys voting for Christmas

    I didn't say you sold boats. Why am I dimwit?

    Can you not see that if red diesel were to go there would be a few less boats sold and therefore a few less decks for you to fit.

    The govt doesn't have to pay too much to 'maintain' the sea, well, at least a lot less than they have to pay to dig up roads and build new roads and put new speed cameras in (to catch people who tear around like maniacs) so that is one good reason to not pay extra tax to mess around on the water.

    Oh and haven't you put yourself on a bit of a high horse by telling everybody to get of theirs?
    No1_Moose

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    Default Re: Red Diesal IMHO

    [ QUOTE ]
    ...How many civil servants and local govt employees do you know with boats?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Loads, look here!
    Warning - Internet forums may contain nuts

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    Default Re: Red Diesal IMHO

    hehe
    I think I can see Sir Humprey Appleby in one of those photos
    No1_Moose

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    Default Re: Turkeys voting for Christmas

    I'm not on a high horse, I'm merely pointing out that you're arguing for a change that would adversely affect YOUR business, but if you're happy with that, then so be it.

    My comment about it being done to death wasn't meant to discourage healthy debate, it was more to point you to a resource you could use to do some background research (now there's a novelty), instead of us all having to start from the very beginning.

    If you have a new & enlightening angle on the subject, I'm sure we'd all be delighted to hear it.

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    Default Re: Red Diesal IMHO

    Oh Jeez - so I'm subsidising them to have fun boating.

    Now I know where the taxes go. ;-)

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    Default Re: Red Diesal IMHO

    Interesting to note they're all Raggies though.

    Not a motor boat section in sight. We need to recruit them to our gang!

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    Default Re: Red Diesal IMHO

    Oi, what's wrong with being a Raggie!! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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