last weekend I was admiring a "YM Offshore 38" for sale in Sutton H. She looked really great after a complete and expensive refit. Apparently this boat was the brainchild of D Thomas plus some advice from the YM tech crew: does anyone one have any further information? How many were made?
the one on display in Plymouth has a fairly hefty price tag: (145K) anyone here think it may be justified?
It originated as a series of articles in YM, the brief being to design a seaworthy and well thought out offshore yacht. Bill Anderson, Peter Howard, Ian Nicholson and David Thomas (as you point out) all had a hand in it. You could buy a book that outlined the ideas behind the boat. As you say expensive, I don't think cost cutting was high on the agenda.
The rig is deck stepped fractional, one of the things I envy with my IOR inspired set up. No idea how many were made.
Having always had an ambition to build a wood epoxy hull like this, but never able to find a suitable shed, I followed its development avidly. I did not like some features (for instance The Hoyt boom) I suspect though that it turned out to be a disappointment when it got in the water, but this impression only comes from reading between the lines and may be a mistake.
Having always had an ambition to build a wood epoxy hull like this, but never able to find a suitable shed, I followed its development avidly. I did not like some features (for instance The Hoyt boom) I suspect though that it turned out to be a disappointment when it got in the water, but this impression only comes from reading between the lines and may be a mistake.
the one in Sutton certainly does not have the Hoyt. There is a twinned forestay set up now.
Quandary, are you perhaps thinking of the wood epoxy boat ('Firefly') with Hoyt jib boom as built for the Editor of YW? I'm pretty sure the YM 38 is a completely different boat and steel is she not?
last weekend I was admiring a "YM Offshore 38" for sale in Sutton H. She looked really great after a complete and expensive refit. Apparently this boat was the brainchild of D Thomas plus some advice from the YM tech crew: does anyone one have any further information? How many were made?
the one on display in Plymouth has a fairly hefty price tag: (145K) anyone here think it may be justified?
A wonderful boat. I have just been re-reading an article about it from the Dec 1989 issue of YM. If you are willing to put a couple of quid in the RNLI box, I could send you a b&w white six page copy. PM me if interested.
In fact I might pop down to have a look.
PS,
I have just noticed it is the YM offshore35 I am talking about, same boat?
Quandary, are you perhaps thinking of the wood epoxy boat ('Firefly') with Hoyt jib boom as built for the Editor of YW? I'm pretty sure the YM 38 is a completely different boat and steel is she not?
The YM Offshore 38s were built by Sirius Yachts - copied below is some basic info obtained from them in about 1990.
She does look like a very fine vessel indeed. I like the arrangement for the Hydrovane, where the shaft goes through a tube in the swim platform. Although access from the inside for painting around the back of the tube might be a wee bit difficult.
Sirius Yachts also built a larger sister called the Sirius 42 - they sent me a catalogue about her (copied below is the first page) and I also have a boat report from the November 1990 issue of YW. If anybody would like a copy, please PM me your email address and I will scan the other pages as well.
(BTW, she cost GBP 235,000 ex VAT then)
I also have the December 1989 issue of YM - this was their 1,000th issue, and I think it must rank as one of their best ever - a real treasure.
Including the wonderful perspective drawings by John Moxham and Arthur Saluz of the YM Offshore 35, long before CAD systems were capable of such brilliance.
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Hello Foxys, I think I remember seeing the YM Offshore 38 here - did she have a turquoise blue hull?
Re how is our engine, ummm, it isn't, yet - still engineless, and looking for a 2003 in reasonable nick at a reasonable price. If no go, then will probably 'bite the engine' and buy a new Beta next year.
Re the Sirius, here are a few more pages from the brochure and re the YW boat test :
Dont you just love those interior illustrations, from the days long before solid modelling on computers! I guess this will become a dying art now.
I shall also scan the article from the December '89 issue of YM about the Offshore 35 concept design and post it here later.
I wonder if the boat we saw out here is the one that the OP saw for sale in Plymouth?
I am guessing there cannot be too many of these fine craft in existence - especially as they probably cost perhaps twice as much as a standard fibreglass boat.
Re www.cargolaw.com , yes they certainly express their views very freely there, with amazing photos, on just about every maritime topic imaginable - including the Somali pirates!
I wonder if the boat we saw out here is the one that the OP saw for sale in Plymouth?
yes Light Blue has a turquise hull: but she has just been resprayed (2008). I gather she has been on the Atlantic circuit (euphemism for the Carib), but she looked like a boat to go all the way round Antarctica. Her mast is huge, for a 38 footer.
the Sirius 42 looks a beauty: perhaps the hand made drawings actually add mistique. If only I had the money (and the time)... dream on Tigger.
"I saw this beautiful boat but was saddened to see that it was already rusting at the stern".
Aye, but remember that it does not take much rust to make a boat look 'rusty' - a slight ding that penetrates the paint film is enough. What this means is that one has to keep up with the preventative maintenance - but if the boat was properly constructed (and painted!) in the first place, this should not be a huge problem.
And the time when you really appreciate a steel yacht is that time when you have just inadvertently 'bounced' over a reef or rock, and the net result is one reef / rock with a headache, and perhaps a slight loss of paint on the keel.......
Some years ago I saw a steel yacht that came ashore here in Carlisle Bay in the leftovers of a hurricane that passed north of us (hence SW winds) - she was pounding on the edge of a concrete structure (in way of a pipe line I think) for a couple of days, and sustained a few dents in the hull (but no fractures).
The sea conditions then were similar to those shown in the link below, which shows what happened to a foam sandwich J 44 when she came ashore on the east coast here and 'bounced' over a reef on the way in : http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111396&
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