What Now Skipper?
Bill Anderson’s test of navigation and sailing skills –‘A question of seamanship’ – is one of the best-read features in Yachting Monthly and has been running for at least 30 years.
A compilation of Bill’s questions and answers has just been published by Adlard Coles Nautical under the title, ‘What Now Skipper?’
Bill often gets letters from YM readers who have their own ideas and answers to the varied sailing scenarios that Bill poses. And as Bill always points out, his answers are never the definitive solution – just one man’s idea.
So, as an experiment, we’re going to post Bill Question from the forthcoming December issue of Yachting Monthly, and invite you to post your own answers head of Bill’s answer.
If the idea proves popular, we will make it a regular feature on the website. We’d like to hear you thoughts and how you would deal with Bill’s imaginary scenarios. So here goes:
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Joe had expected the Salcombe Estuary to be crowded on a fine Saturday evening but not so crowded that he would have trouble finding an anchor berth in the normally peaceful area at the entrance to Frogmore Creek. As he motored up past the town he was met by the harbourmaster’s launch and told boatman where he intended to go.
‘That’s fine,’ said the lad in the launch. ‘But could you please tuck well in, clear of the fairway. We’ve got a big fleet of dinghies racing tomorrow, there will be 50 of them out there in the morning and another 50 in the afternoon.’
As he approached the anchorage he found that it was already nearly full. There appeared to be just one empty space between a large motorsailer and the rest of the anchored boats . He tucked in neatly – his is the red boat in the diagram.
With the anchor well dug in and the sails stowed, Joe and Pam settled down to a pre-dinner drink in the cockpit.
‘That motorsailer is going to be pretty close to the boats on the moorings when the tide turns,’ remarked Pam.
‘I’m glad it’s his problem and not mine,’ replied Joe.
Half an hour later, the motorsailer’s crew returned in their dinghy. Once on board, the skipper surveyed his surroundings and clearly came to the same conclusion about his proximity to the moorings. He set about loading the kedge and warp into the dinghy, obviously intending to lay it out astern to restrict his swing at the turn of the tide.
‘He can’t do that. He may keep himself clear of the moorings but he’ll be much too close to us when we swing to the ebb,’ said Pam, furious about their neighbour’s selfish behaviour. ‘I thought that you had to keep clear of other boats already at anchor when you put your hook down and presumably that applies just as much to laying out a kedge as it does to dropping your main anchor. Can’t we tell him to behave himself? He must know the rules, he’s wearing a blue ensign and flying the burgee of a very well-known yacht club.’
Joe did not reply immediately. He didn’t particularly want to have to shift berth to the other side of the Saltstone where he would inevitably have to be further out into the fairway and vulnerable to the horde of racing dinghies which would appear in the morning, but neither did he want to have an acrimonious altercation with his neighbour.
Rather than laying a kedge from the stern of the boat, he could suggest to the motorsailer's skipper, and he himself could use their kedge anchor from the bow, but taking it astern, so effectivly the boat will only swing in its own length. That way both boats will be clear of each other, the other boats and the moorings.
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Agree, a Bahamian moor. The only issue is that from the diagram it's not clear if the red boat would be clear of the motorsailers bows when he turns. So when the motorsailer lays the kedge aft it would probably be a good idea to leave some slack.
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That way both boats will be clear of each other, the other boats and the moorings.
I'm not sure about that. If he restricts his own boat from swinging he will present the boat currently astern with the same problem, and having arrived last, will be obliged to move, unless the whole line of boats is willing to moor in the same way.
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Oh dear, here we go again, just as we were all getting along so pleasantly.
(Doesn't Bill have a sub-editor to weed out that sort of nonsense? Doesn't YM realise that some people with blue ensigns might actually be customers who buy YM?)
Apart from Parsifal laying bait in the water.......
A little chat with the M/Sailer would help, and perhaps our red boat might consider laying a slack kedge to limit his swing in the same way that it was suggested for the M/S?
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But not enough to inhibite the other boats.
As the owner is obviously a gentleman with impeccable character - he must be present for the blue to be worn and everyone I know who wears an undefaced blue is a fine fellow - Joe should row across, explain his concern and tomorrow's dinghy invasion and suggest that he rafts alongside for the night. Pam sounds a bit of a shrew so Joe should leave her behind on his boat when the inevitable socialising ensues.
(Doesn't Bill have a sub-editor to weed out that sort of nonsense? Doesn't YM realise that some people with blue ensigns might actually be customers who buy YM?)
Doesn't Parsifal realise it was a woman wot said that and all women are right!
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I'm not sure about that. If he restricts his own boat from swinging he will present the boat currently astern with the same problem, and having arrived last, will be obliged to move, unless the whole line of boats is willing to moor in the same way.
I agree and only being 'on site' as it were would confirm that. If the sketch is intended to be a guide, the boat that is currently astern, looks to be smaller and of course he is to the one side, there could just be enough room and of course Joes boat will not swivel exactly on its stem, it would be tight though.
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As the owner is obviously a gentleman with impeccable character - he must be present for the blue to be worn and everyone I know who wears an undefaced blue is a fine fellow - Joe should row across, explain his concern and tomorrow's dinghy invasion and suggest that he rafts alongside for the night. Pam sounds a bit of a shrew so Joe should leave her behind on his boat when the inevitable socialising ensues.
If they don't want an argument...move to the bag, life is too short. The motor yacht was there first and had not chosen his spot wisely and is being very inconsiderate.
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If they don't want an argument...move to the bag, life is too short. The motor yacht was there first and had not chosen his spot wisely and is being very inconsiderate.
Of course, if space permits, the motorsailer's crew could be laying their kedge so that at slack water the bower can be moved to replace it, leaving the motorsailer lying twixt the red boat and the moorings. Might be worth asking them?
I've never been there and therefore of course this is subject to conditions, depths etc, and predictions of wind at the turn. But here goes ...
I'd ask him if he wouldn't mind laying his kedge slightly into the fairway but more or less in line with my main anchor, then I'd lay my 2nd anchor uptide but more inshore than my main anchor. I'd lie to the kedge until the turn, and probably leave the helm to starboard. At the turn of the tide he will be pulled out slightly (in line with the outer anchored boats and I'd be pulled in, to lie to my main anchor. We could both lie side by side on Bahamian moors. This way we wouldn't affect anyone else, and we'd still be in close company for that G&T!
at the risk of being a party pooper, I can see this thread going the same way as the What Now Skipper on Mobo forum - the majority seem to attack the original author for setting an unrealistic question !!!
"The motorsailer, although in position first, has since taken an action which has given the red boat a foul berth. The red boat could not reasonably have been expected to foresee this. Therefore the motorsailer is at fault and will be responsible for any damage that results.
Well, I think the motorsailor is acting in an irresponsible and inconsiderate way. However after clarifying what his intentions were I'd bog off elsewhere cos I would'nt want to run the the risk of being anchored next to such a plonker and life's too short to get involved in an acrimonious exchange
Well, I think the motorsailor is acting in an irresponsible and inconsiderate way. However after clarifying what his intentions were I'd bog off elsewhere cos I would'nt want to run the the risk of being anchored next to such a plonker and life's too short to get involved in an acrimonious exchange
Your forgetting, red boat is well into aperitifs, he's poo faced, he cant move a boat!
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On coming up why didn't the red boat notice that the motorsailer would not be able to swing because of the moorings and would therefore have to modify his anchoring arrangements meaning that there was no real space for the red boat.
On coming up why didn't the red boat notice that the motorsailer would not be able to swing because of the moorings and would therefore have to modify his anchoring arrangements meaning that there was no real space for the red boat.
Good point, but dont you mean, "why didn't the motorsailer notice he was going to create a problem when he anchored"?
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In cases where an anchorage is overcrowded, or even where he wishes the sole other occupant to leave a favorite bolthole, the prudent Yachtsman plugs his ipod into the stereo and allows Messers Plant, Page, Jones & Bonham to work their magic.
In cases where an anchorage is overcrowded, or even where he wishes the sole other occupant to leave a favorite bolthole, the prudent Yachtsman plugs his ipod into the stereo and allows Messers Plant, Page, Jones & Bonham to work their magic.
We had a great night in Portmagee in Ireland, came back from the pub and found we were the only yacht around....On went the laptop with a Led Zep DVD, and ran the audio through the boats stereo. It was blowing a hooley so we cranked the stereo up and sat in the cockpit with a few more beers until the early hours.
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In cases where an anchorage is overcrowded, or even where he wishes the sole other occupant to leave a favorite bolthole, the prudent Yachtsman plugs his ipod into the stereo and allows Messers Plant, Page, Jones & Bonham to work their magic.
I doubt whether keeping to the side - as directed by the "lad" - would really make any difference to the racing fleet; they'll be hugging one side or another to avoid the tide in their upstream leg, and if the most advantageous route is through the anchorage, that's where they'll go. (And if it isn't, some will try it anyway.)
And as you can see from the link, one of the racing marks is just north of the anchorage in any case. Whether the race officer decides to use it for the morning or afternoon courses depends on the wind conditions of the day, not on how busy the anchorage is (which tends to be for overnighters only anyway). And I doubt the "lad" knows what's likely to be in store.
So my advice would be to re-anchor, further out in the fairway (avoiding the shallow bits out there). No real reason why the boats in the anchorage need to be in line astern - which is what's caused the original problem.
As an aside, 50 boats racing isn't the most you'd expect in Salcombe, during SYC regatta week this year there were about 100 every morning and 150 in the afternoon.
It doesn't seem a very desirable anchorage anyway - too far from the nearest pub
Therefore presumably he is unlikely to be going ashore, unless he needs to exercise a dog or something, so just rig plenty of fenders and see where everyone ends up when the tide turns then move a little if necessary.
Something is going to have to be done. Perhaps the simplist option is to get out the kedge and re anchor alongside and inside the Mobo. You can drop the kedge on the way up and then don't need to mess about with the dinghy. 10 minute job. Give the Mobo captain a cherrie wave and smile when anchored and he will realise without you having to say anything that as a result of his actions you have had to move. This will inevitably cause him great embarrasment and lead him to offer you a drink onboard where you will find good wine and conversation and you and your wife will have a very pleasant evening.
Firstly the guy was nuts to go into Salcombe in the first place.
Secondly you could argue that since the motorsailer was there first so even though he added a second anchor which created the situation he was the still the first arrival, ergo tough but Pam & Joe need to move.
Thirdly why create unecessary stress for yourself? You can already see a potential problem and somebody will have to move so just go ahead and do it, then you can relax. If necessary call the HM and tell him to earn his keep and find you another spot?
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I'm with the sanguine flotilla here. Life's too short to be getting upset about who moored first, did the motor boat moor inappropriately, did they then change their configuration and put themselves at the bottom of the pecking order etc.
I'd not bother with the bahamian moor as I'd still have a sleepless night wondering what everyone else's swinging radius was and waiting for the "clunk".
The Red boat has two choices as I see it. Either move up alongside the Motor boat and moor fore and aft the same as them, if there's enough water inshore of them (with the potential, as mentioned elsewhere, for a few drinks and chat to be had), or simply move to the other side of the creek and re-anchor and enjoy a pleasant evening in Salcombe. After all, you're sitting on a yacht at anchor in a beautiful setting.. Life could be a lot worse.
Best option would be to sod off to Dartmouth.
In places like Salcombe, there is often only hassle to be had from anchoring. Much better to pay for a mooring and have the peace of mind that you can have a beer or two and not have to move at 2AM.
Anchoring works much better where there is more space, i.e outside the main harbours in fair weather.
Quite agree with luff'em with the added option, and knowing my ground tackle, of suggesting they come alongside us for the night and all swing merrily away on my anchor. If the mobo is too big and heavy then suggest/ask to do the opposite, i.e. you go alongside them.
Well, I think the motorsailor is acting in an irresponsible and inconsiderate way. However after clarifying what his intentions were I'd bog off elsewhere cos I would'nt want to run the the risk of being anchored next to such a plonker and life's too short to get involved in an acrimonious exchange
I don't believe it - I'm in agreement with Jimi again !
IMHO - the boat ahead is acting in a way that is unfair and liable to cause serious consequences ... so if he doesn't agree after a chat to sort in another manner - then I'd up anchor and clear away from him sharpish ...
There's no room there for bahamian tactics or any other with kedges - it only adds to the situation ... it's all do bahamian / kedges or none at all. Just one boat swinging or failing and it's BANG.
If the weather is quiet why not move up abeam of the motorsailer and anchor fore and aft? If both boats are moored fore and aft they cant swing in to each other.
suggest rafting with the mobo? strange bedfellows true but if you deploy anchors from both vessels you've both got a more secure anchoring. they might be more inclined if you point out to them that having deployed their kedge you are now in swinging distance of their pride and joy....
should we assume there's a reason why you couldn't anchor aft of the boat currently at the back of the pack?
was in the ionian recently when a big flashy bav came and anchored too close to not only a previously moored jag 27 but also the entrance to the little harbour and it's wall. they then proceeded to deploy a kedge as well. the jag moved to raft up with the rest of us.
There's no room there for bahamian tactics or any other with kedges - it only adds to the situation ... it's all do bahamian / kedges or none at all. Just one boat swinging or failing and it's BANG.
I disagree it doesn't have to be all or nothing. Given that you are out of range of the boats behind, when they swing becuase you have moved closer to the moorings, and with the motorsailer fore 'n' aft, you won't reach him, and the moored boats will also be out of range. My ONLY concern (other than other boats ground tackle) is the shore line, and in my boat given the colours on the chart, I'm probably alright with that too! - In fact, on a recent Bahamian moor my kedge was in the shore ...
One other thing to add to my previous post that's just occured to me and another reason for the skipper of the red boat to be sanguine at the change made by the motor boat.. When anchoring it's the job of the skipper to assess the situation, the lie of other boats, what will happen when the tide turns, wind changes etc.. One glance at the motor boat would have identified that he was in a spot of bother and was either going to have to leave, put out a kedge, or swing into the moored boats. It's a fair bet that if this is the end of the day then the motor boat is intending to settle for the night and so is likely to set a kedge (or a Bahamian moor) to avoid a coming together.
Although none of this is really the business of our intrepid red boat skipper he would do well to assess the likely outcome of his decision to moor where he intends, before he does so.
First recheck the chart as there is no Saltstone or Frogmore Creek in the Salcombe Estuary.
Therefore he will then realise that he is clearly in the wrong place.
Anchor up. Let wife be skipper; (having just passed her YM) as she was fixing dinner in the galley while he was downing the drinks; and motor to where he really wants to be.
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We have anchored a lot. We prefer it. But there are some places where there is little room and too many sunsail boats.
If yoy leave yourself enough room an Italian is bound to move into the space.
If you use what our generation called a battleship moor (i.e. two bower anchors and a swivel, now pparently called Bahamian) about 75% of other boats will not know what to do.
Head and stern anchors are excellent ina tideway and light winds, but about 40% of other boats will not know what to do.
Me? I have a good steel boat. Let 'em all come.
The worst places for anchorung close are Islas santa Margharita (near Cannes), close to Eleni's nice taverna in Vlikho, and Admiralty Bay in Bequia. And the main problem is the self-drive charter boat
Another solution. Launch the dinghy. Go up to each of the other boats one by one. Get concensus ageement or disagreement re going Bahamian. If all agree to go Bahamian, do so. If not, then six dinghies to pay a visit to offending mooring boor. (Cutlasses Optional).
If the red boat is not going to swing as he's laid out a kedge I'd up anchor, move up abeam but not rafted, lay out main anchor parallel to the red boat and lay out a kedge aft. That way the boats behind can spin like tops if they like but the two of us at the front will not swing and will not also risk collision with any other boats as tide turns.
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I forgot to add, the offending boat ought to be made to shift ship upstream to at least four ships lengths so as not to upset the whole fleet astern of him.
It is not unusual to encounter thoughtless and inconsiderate people like this. You see it ashore, 4 X 4s badly parked obstructing everything and everyone.
The worst places for anchorung close are Islas santa Margharita (near Cannes), close to Eleni's nice taverna in Vlikho, and Admiralty Bay in Bequia. And the main problem is the self-drive charter boat
close to Elini's nice taverena in Vlikho was my first time anchoring as a skipper and i think we had three attempts.....absolutely magical place though and a brilliant meal so it was worth it.
If the red boat is not going to swing as he's laid out a kedge I'd up anchor, move up abeam but not rafted, lay out main anchor parallel to the red boat and lay out a kedge aft. That way the boats behind can spin like tops if they like but the two of us at the front will not swing and will not also risk collision with any other boats as tide turns.
Ah !
I have just thought of it...
After getting a general concensus not to have to go Bahamian....get the harbourmaster to come out in his launch to sort out the offending motorboat.
We have anchored a lot. We prefer it. But there are some places where there is little room and too many sunsail boats.
If yoy leave yourself enough room an Italian is bound to move into the space.
If you use what our generation called a battleship moor (i.e. two bower anchors and a swivel, now pparently called Bahamian) about 75% of other boats will not know what to do.
Head and stern anchors are excellent ina tideway and light winds, but about 40% of other boats will not know what to do.
Me? I have a good steel boat. Let 'em all come.
The worst places for anchorung close are Islas santa Margharita (near Cannes), close to Eleni's nice taverna in Vlikho, and Admiralty Bay in Bequia. And the main problem is the self-drive charter boat
Additionally charter boats are a pain because habitually they do not let out enough scope when laying an anchor. Also they do not ensure the anchor itself is holding before partying or going ashore, leaving the neighbouring boats to deal with the problem of their making. All it takes is a shift of wind and you've got a problem. Then they return much later.....drunk....Oh dear !
One glance at the motor boat would have identified that he was in a spot of bother and was either going to have to leave, put out a kedge, or swing into the moored boats. I
Excuse me asking, and I'm probably being even more dense than usual this evening, but how would the inexperienced man in the red boat be able, at "one glance", to know where the motor-sailer was going to end up when the tide turned. I mean, wouldn't he need to know where its anchor was? And as there is no-one on board the motor-sailer to tell him ..........
Excuse me asking, and I'm probably being even more dense than usual this evening, but how would the inexperienced man in the red boat be able, at "one glance", to know where the motor-sailer was going to end up when the tide turned. I mean, wouldn't he need to know where its anchor was? And as there is no-one on board the motor-sailer to tell him ..........
Could he not look at the plan at the start of this thread or indeed in the next YM?
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If the red boat is not going to swing as he's laid out a kedge I'd up anchor, move up abeam but not rafted, lay out main anchor parallel to the red boat and lay out a kedge aft. That way the boats behind can spin like tops if they like but the two of us at the front will not swing and will not also risk collision with any other boats as tide turns.
Great minds think alike ,seems the obvious answer to me.Posted it about 15 replies earlier:-)
One other thing to add to my previous post that's just occured to me and another reason for the skipper of the red boat to be sanguine at the change made by the motor boat.. When anchoring it's the job of the skipper to assess the situation, the lie of other boats, what will happen when the tide turns, wind changes etc.. One glance at the motor boat would have identified that he was in a spot of bother and was either going to have to leave, put out a kedge, or swing into the moored boats. It's a fair bet that if this is the end of the day then the motor boat is intending to settle for the night and so is likely to set a kedge (or a Bahamian moor) to avoid a coming together.
Although none of this is really the business of our intrepid red boat skipper he would do well to assess the likely outcome of his decision to moor where he intends, before he does so.
When arriving I would assume the other boat was likely to leave or move and re-anchor. Otherwise why on earth did the motorsailer anchor so close to to the moorings in the first place?
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"The worst places for anchorung close are Islas santa Margharita "
This is one of the two islands hat make up the Iles Lerins off of Cannes. The strait between the islands is often so full of anchored boats that you feel you could walk from one island to the next without getting your feet wet!
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First thing would be to chat to the motorsailer; it's easy enough to do without being confrontational. Something along the lines of "We haven't got a kedge out; do you think we'll be OK or do we need to move in case we swing into you when the tide turns?" Perhaps he has some clever plan you haven't thought of (though I can't see it in this case).
If he seems like a nice guy, best solution is to raft up though - that removes the risk of dinghies cheating the tide trying to squeeze between you and taking some of your paint with them.
Great minds think alike ,seems the obvious answer to me.Posted it about 15 replies earlier:-)
Obvious to me too (see earlier) But I'd still go Bahamian coz I hate being anchored the wrong way round by a stern anchor. You don't take any more room, and the boat points the 'natural' way
I can't understand why anyone would want to raft to a stranger as well. Would you trust a strangers ground tackle to hold you, or would you trust yours to hold a big motorsailer as well?
Rafting out in a river is a no no for me as well.Apart from the extra strain on ground tackle if a Large vessel goes by kicking up a big wash then the two boats rolling whilst rafted up can cause a lot of damage very quickly .
If anyone is determined to raft up in open water then at least make sure the masts and rigging arent lined up with each other as the boats will roll together as the wash passes under causing it to rain VHF aerials and light lenses for a while. :-)
. Would you trust a strangers ground tackle to hold you, or would you trust yours to hold a big motorsailer as well?
in the information where does it say that the motorsailer is big? it could be you are bigger. i think the term motorsailer is a little distracting. it is just, like many yachts let's face it, a vessel that relies on its engine more than its sails.
yes i would trust a stranger's ground tackle to hold, especially if you are cooperating on the anchoring. if you don't trust stranger's ground tackle i'd suggest moving away from so many anchored boats and finding an alternative place to stay the night. i'd have thought staggering the raft and adequate fendering would reduce the risk of damage when rolling.
VO5 has the point. What are you guys doing assuming that in a tide turning situation all those at anchor have only one anchor out? They're an intelligent bunch of good seamen. And they've all moored, with one hook up tide and one downtide. If they haven't, all those with CQRs and flat anchors will be ready to drag when the tide turns, flipping their anchors. That'll be fun if there's a little breeze from the north as well.
So, Mr Red should join the club. Moor with the rest. And if he really thinks they're all fools like him, happy to trust a single anchor while the tide turns, nip down the line in his dinghy and check. If they're at single anchor, bale out of the situation. Or moor, put lots of really fat fenders out, and check your insurance.
They're an intelligent bunch of good seamen. And they've all moored, with one hook up tide and one downtide. If they haven't, all those with CQRs and flat anchors will be ready to drag when the tide turns, flipping their anchors.
You must be joking.....we're talking Salcombe not Solent (or the Med)! I'll bet some of them don't even carry 2 anchors and have happily stayed put there with their CQR's many times over the years
Assuming depth permits laying a kedge anchor at 45 degrees to present line from
my stern should take me clear of both neighbours at change of tide and revert to status quo at the next tide. Blue flag or not as you were last in the bunch up to you to move off and do the kedge thing ,that's what an engine's for innit.
You moored too close to the m/sailer's stern in the first place.
Just got to thinking if the answers from forumites could be somehow hidden until they've placed their own on the forum,before reading the others' answers. OK ,I know it isn't a competition, but might get rid of the superfluous drivel maybe not!
Inadvertent 'lakesailoring' notwithstanding.
Well, I think the motorsailor is acting in an irresponsible and inconsiderate way. However after clarifying what his intentions were I'd bog off elsewhere cos I would'nt want to run the the risk of being anchored next to such a plonker and life's too short to get involved in an acrimonious exchange
What that man said. Life is too short.
At least up here this is a situation that is very unlikely to ever arise.
Sorry, you got the question for free, for the answer you have to subscribe to the magazine, thats if you are really desperate to know, however most of the answers on here are more interesting than Decembers YM.
I would not take any notice of what the magazine may offer as a solution.
It is quite obvious that the current arrangement will develop into a problem as a consequence of somoene else's lack of consideration. People who lack consideration for others often prove to be stubborn and sometimes even rude or even aggressive. You don't really want to be in proximity to people like that out of choice. The best option is to heave anchor and go somewhere else, and have some peace and quiet without feeling obligated to have to struggle with morons.
It is quite obvious that the current arrangement will develop into a problem as a consequence of somoene else's lack of consideration. People who lack consideration for others often prove to be stubborn and sometimes even rude or even aggressive. You don't really want to be in proximity to people like that out of choice. The best option is to heave anchor and go somewhere else, and have some peace and quiet without feeling obligated to have to struggle with morons.
Goodness, all that from a bloke putting an anchor into a dinghy! But I suppose if that is your attitude to life the concept of a polite, amiable conversation is probably alien to you. You may be right that the other boat's skipper is stubborn, rude, and/or aggressive, or he may just be a normal bloke who is unaware he has pissed off your SWMBO. I would recommend giving him the benefit of the doubt but I can imagine that if I was in his place (with my undefaced blue!), I would be glad to see you go.
I have found that conversation with other anchorers is always worthwhile if only to ascertain the scope being used to avoid turn of tide problems.
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