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Gludy
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Re: gludy
      11/05/2008 00:07

Beadle
I will answer each point.
The thread was nopt about me it was a valid question about if there were laws on the matter or not - that was it - no more no less.
"I never said or implied that staying out in storm conditions was preferable"

Then the points was meaningless because it had no bearing on the issue being discussed.

"Its a matter of balancing the risk.@
I totally agree.


"There are many instances where staying out at sea is far safer than trying to enter a port (jumping out of the frying pan into the fire)"
I totally agree/

"Surely the whole point is in f10-11 condx there are many harbours which are not safe to enter, Try a f10 N Easter anywhere on the East coast and you will be lucky to get in anywhere. There are perhaps 4 or 5 havens where you could get in between the Harwich and the Forth"

I totally agree but had already made it clear on the thread that the situation was escaping to a harbour BEFORE the storm had hit and that this might make the harbours decision more difficult.

"I merely pointed out that a boat such as the one you are looking at buying makes that option less of a risk. I can well imagine the circumstances where I might (wrongly) try entry in a lightweight 26ft boat rather than stay out in bad condx. In a 50ft cat I would be much happier to ride it it out."

That may be the case but the thread was not about me - it was about if there was a law or not governing the genera; situation.

"Isn't that why people buy bigger boats?"
Its part of the reason but has no bearing whatsoever on the issue being discussed - the issue assumes that the skipper is seeking refuge before a storm to escape the worst of the storm. Making it personal to me it to me is not what it is about.

"Similarly parking a small keel boat in strong winds in a crowded harbour is likely to be much less fraught than trying the same in a 50 ft cat, or at least you will do less damage."
True and agreed but again not even the subject of the thread.

"You manage the risk as best you can - the big boat offers a different range of options"

True and fasle a smaller but faster boat may be better. BUT again not the issue being discussed.

The discussion was not about a cat, not about me, not about anything other than a question to see if there was law.

Hlb and Co do this to me on many threads - they personalise it and take it away from the subject being discussed insulting me on the way.

If you want to start a thread discussing what best to do in a big boat then do it that. I would agree with most of what you say.

Adfter the BVI i will return to the forum and post some videos. That will be my swan song as I become a raggie and will no longer frequent this forum joining the more peaceful world of Scuttlebut where I am being helped a lot as a Newbie.

So Hlb you will soon have your kingdom all to yourself so that you can continue to censor the asking of any questions that you do not like.

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* A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy 09/05/2008 10:04
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Searush   09/05/2008 20:31
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm mikef   09/05/2008 11:49
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm blueglass   09/05/2008 19:45
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm mikef   09/05/2008 22:17
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm blueglass   10/05/2008 09:17
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm mikef   11/05/2008 21:04
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 23:03
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm hlb   10/05/2008 02:07
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Chrusty1   10/05/2008 21:56
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   10/05/2008 07:01
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm hlb   10/05/2008 17:00
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 11:51
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm mikef   09/05/2008 12:51
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 13:08
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm MapisM   09/05/2008 13:07
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 13:09
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm mikef   09/05/2008 13:44
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 13:48
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Tonybob   10/05/2008 16:42
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   10/05/2008 17:05
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Beadle   10/05/2008 20:20
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   10/05/2008 20:59
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Beadle   10/05/2008 22:15
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   10/05/2008 22:26
. * * Re: PS Beadle   10/05/2008 20:39
. * * Re: PS hlb   10/05/2008 20:49
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm hlb   10/05/2008 20:37
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   10/05/2008 21:08
. * * Catch 22 MapisM   10/05/2008 20:58
. * * Re: Catch 22 hlb   10/05/2008 21:34
. * * Adds to sanity? MapisM   10/05/2008 22:05
. * * Re: Adds to sanity? hlb   10/05/2008 22:46
. * * Re: Adds to sanity? MapisM   11/05/2008 00:08
. * * Re: Adds to sanity? Gludy   10/05/2008 22:58
. * * gludy nyx2k   10/05/2008 21:41
. * * Re: gludy Beadle   10/05/2008 22:39
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   10/05/2008 22:53
. * * Re: gludy Beadle   10/05/2008 23:19
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   11/05/2008 00:07
. * * Re: gludy Beadle   11/05/2008 00:20
. * * Re: gludy hlb   10/05/2008 23:03
. * * Re: gludy BrendanS   10/05/2008 22:57
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   10/05/2008 23:06
. * * Re: gludy hlb   11/05/2008 00:40
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   11/05/2008 10:20
. * * Re: gludy hlb   11/05/2008 10:42
. * * Re: gludy hlb   11/05/2008 00:00
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   11/05/2008 00:12
. * * Re: gludy BrendanS   10/05/2008 23:22
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   11/05/2008 00:16
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   10/05/2008 22:16
. * * Re: gludy BrendanS   10/05/2008 22:27
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   10/05/2008 22:37
. * * Re: gludy BrendanS   10/05/2008 22:50
. * * Re: gludy Gludy   10/05/2008 23:02
. * * Re: gludy BrendanS   10/05/2008 23:04
. * * Re: gludy hlb   10/05/2008 21:47
. * * Re: Catch 22 Gludy   10/05/2008 21:14
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm nyx2k   10/05/2008 18:25
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   10/05/2008 20:06
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm MapisM   09/05/2008 13:18
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Chrusty1   09/05/2008 12:57
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm TigaWave   09/05/2008 11:30
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm deisel   09/05/2008 10:51
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 11:46
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm pir8ped   09/05/2008 10:59
. * * Re: A safe Harbour in a Storm Gludy   09/05/2008 11:50

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