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Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK
      14/05/2008 18:26

A seatbelt or airbag is a safety device that is there as a last resort, sensible people will drive according to their own limits of skill (rather like sailors), and have various other safety devices that will reduce the chance of having an accident (good brakes / abs), and if an accident should happen, if the speed is not excessive, the collapsable safety zone will give a good degree of protection. However, as you have pointed out there are some occasions when the crash is beyond your control, and that is where the seat belt and air bag will help as last resort. Much like a life raft.

I agree the number of fatal car accidents is much larger than the number of drownings, however the number of car miles is also vastly greater than the number of sea miles sailed. But it would be false to conclude that someone that only drives a small number of miles annually does not need a seat belt, a seatbelt, like a liferaft is there as a safety device of last resort when something unexpected happens.

With respect to the force 7 and foundering, I have been on more than one occasion in an unforecast force 7, had I struck say a sub merged container, or an internal plumbing fitting had sheered letting in sea water, or water ingress caused a short that sparked a fire ( I could go on), I would have had to look at plan B or C.

Having listened to the VHF traffic during that time, the emergency services were dealing with quite a lot, and in one case the boat had a weak battery but luckily another boat relayed their VHF calls. Given the amount of emergency calls they had on both occasions, it was clear that resources would have been stretched to cover every call. From that I surmise that sometime I cannot rely on the emegency services to get to me on time, I may need to have an alternative (i.e. a LR)

So yes my plan is that the life raft is a complete waste of money, and I would only contemplate getting in one as the boat went down underneath me.

By definition, you will not have anyone on this forum that needed one but did not have one !

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* "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK RGH 12/05/2008 17:03
. * * RNLI Sea Safety contribution Peter_Chennell   16/05/2008 11:56
. * * Re: RNLI Sea Safety contribution Fireball   16/05/2008 12:04
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   14/05/2008 12:47
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 15:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   14/05/2008 18:26
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 19:46
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   15/05/2008 12:59
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 13:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   15/05/2008 14:33
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 14:55
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   15/05/2008 16:43
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Captainslarty   15/05/2008 13:35
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 16:55
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 14:07
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 17:27
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jonjo   15/05/2008 21:15
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   15/05/2008 21:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   15/05/2008 18:44
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 22:28
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   16/05/2008 09:03
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   16/05/2008 09:28
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   16/05/2008 09:11
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 19:36
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   15/05/2008 20:03
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 20:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   15/05/2008 18:02
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 14:27
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 14:38
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 14:58
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   15/05/2008 13:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   15/05/2008 13:33
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   14/05/2008 20:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 09:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   14/05/2008 23:14
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 09:21
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 22:43
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 09:34
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   15/05/2008 06:43
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 07:48
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   14/05/2008 19:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   14/05/2008 16:54
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jordanbasset   14/05/2008 17:00
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   14/05/2008 16:03
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 16:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 08:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jordanbasset   15/05/2008 11:12
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 09:00
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 09:07
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 09:40
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 10:18
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 11:15
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 12:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK QuestGirl   13/05/2008 17:08
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jack_sparrow   13/05/2008 15:37
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 16:11
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   13/05/2008 17:51
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 23:47
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DogWatch   14/05/2008 00:31
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 19:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 23:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DogWatch   14/05/2008 00:30
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   14/05/2008 08:19
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   14/05/2008 17:33
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 11:21
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   14/05/2008 18:24
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jordanbasset   13/05/2008 20:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 23:40
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   14/05/2008 06:22
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 16:19
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 15:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   13/05/2008 16:02
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 16:15
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Nicki_Crutchfield   13/05/2008 01:18
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK csail   13/05/2008 09:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK steve_clayton   12/05/2008 19:41
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK BlueChip   12/05/2008 19:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK RGH   12/05/2008 20:26
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Searush   12/05/2008 22:20
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK LadyInBed   16/05/2008 13:10
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   13/05/2008 00:11
. * * exposure homa   12/05/2008 18:48
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK michael_w   12/05/2008 18:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   12/05/2008 18:37
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   12/05/2008 18:50
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK RGH   13/05/2008 10:06
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 09:58
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 11:53
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 11:59
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 12:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   13/05/2008 13:08
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DJE   13/05/2008 12:06
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   13/05/2008 10:41
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 10:22
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 10:46
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 11:05
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 13:27
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 14:07
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 15:20
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 15:28
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   13/05/2008 13:46
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 13:38
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 15:11
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DogWatch   13/05/2008 15:58
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 15:59
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 15:24
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 15:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK stevebrassett   13/05/2008 15:37
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Clifford_Pope   13/05/2008 13:50
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 14:06
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Kevin_Mac   13/05/2008 10:30
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   13/05/2008 10:34
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK homa   12/05/2008 18:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   12/05/2008 18:35
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   12/05/2008 18:48
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   12/05/2008 19:01
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   12/05/2008 23:44
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK peterb   13/05/2008 00:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 00:30
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK mikehibb   12/05/2008 19:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK David_Jersey   12/05/2008 17:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   12/05/2008 18:07
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   12/05/2008 18:12
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK SAWDOC   12/05/2008 20:21
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Gludy   12/05/2008 18:15
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   12/05/2008 17:33
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alan17   12/05/2008 17:42
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   12/05/2008 18:06
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Morgana   12/05/2008 18:12
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   12/05/2008 18:22
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Kermudjon   12/05/2008 17:14
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK bendyone   12/05/2008 17:06

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