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Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK
      15/05/2008 17:27

If I may be permitted one last comment then I will shut up. In an earlier post I referred to a phenomenom called "Moral Panic" where untrue things get into the public consciuosness and then take on a life of their own. (Devil worship in the Orkneys and systemic child abuse in Lancashire are examples). Look how much effort was needed to erase these untruths once they had been stated - and right to the end some supporters still refused to believe the facts.

A similar issue to this liferaft debate is the original AIDS campaigns where the general thrust was that it was "everybody's" disease. Those who are old enough will remember the scary leaflets and posters our children brought home from school. In this country and in most other developed countries it was never going to spread outside certain sections of the community because of the way it was transmitted, or through contaminated blood. To my mind, the effort spent on trying to make it everybody's disease diverted attention away from the real victims. Of course attitudes changed and our society generally has no taboos about AIDS, because we know the "truth" about it.

Suggesting that all yachtsmen need a liferaft is not dissimilar. The truth is the need is confined to narrow subsets. If I were crossing the Bay of Biscay in the winter I would take one because that is where I have a high probability (based on recorded past data) of encountering conditions that could overwhelm even a well found yacht. If I were an ocean racer intent on pushing my yacht to the limits in any conditions, I would have one (indeed would be forced to). If I habitually sailed in boats of an unstable design or had a propensity to lose its keel, I would have one. If I were a professional fisherman operating in all weathers I would have one.

The only cause of foundering which is partly outside my control is collision. And even there the 5 cases in the last 12 years have so little in common, both in the way they occured and location that the only way of avoiding them is vigilance and good seamanship from both parties.

So, fellow yachtsmen avoid the trap of moral panic and concentrate on the facts, there is more than enough to learn from them to make yachting safer.

And if you are still emotionally attached to having a raft, then by all means do so and be thankful that they are a fraction of the price in real terms than they were in the past!

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* "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK RGH 12/05/2008 17:03
. * * RNLI Sea Safety contribution Peter_Chennell   16/05/2008 11:56
. * * Re: RNLI Sea Safety contribution Fireball   16/05/2008 12:04
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   14/05/2008 12:47
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 15:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   14/05/2008 18:26
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 19:46
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   15/05/2008 12:59
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 13:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK nct1   15/05/2008 14:33
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 14:55
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   15/05/2008 16:43
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Captainslarty   15/05/2008 13:35
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 16:55
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 14:07
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 17:27
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jonjo   15/05/2008 21:15
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   15/05/2008 21:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   15/05/2008 18:44
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 22:28
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   16/05/2008 09:03
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   16/05/2008 09:28
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   16/05/2008 09:11
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 19:36
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   15/05/2008 20:03
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 20:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   15/05/2008 18:02
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 14:27
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 14:38
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 14:58
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   15/05/2008 13:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   15/05/2008 13:33
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   14/05/2008 20:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 09:23
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   14/05/2008 23:14
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 09:21
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 22:43
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Moonfire   15/05/2008 09:34
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   15/05/2008 06:43
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   15/05/2008 07:48
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   14/05/2008 19:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   14/05/2008 16:54
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jordanbasset   14/05/2008 17:00
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   14/05/2008 16:03
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   14/05/2008 16:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 08:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jordanbasset   15/05/2008 11:12
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 09:00
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 09:07
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 10:18
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   15/05/2008 11:15
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DavenHelen   15/05/2008 12:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK QuestGirl   13/05/2008 17:08
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK jack_sparrow   13/05/2008 15:37
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 16:11
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK WindFinder   13/05/2008 17:51
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 23:47
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DogWatch   14/05/2008 00:31
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 19:39
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 23:45
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DogWatch   14/05/2008 00:30
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   14/05/2008 08:19
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   14/05/2008 17:33
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Nicki_Crutchfield   13/05/2008 01:18
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK csail   13/05/2008 09:49
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK steve_clayton   12/05/2008 19:41
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK BlueChip   12/05/2008 19:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK RGH   12/05/2008 20:26
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Searush   12/05/2008 22:20
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK LadyInBed   16/05/2008 13:10
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Login_name   13/05/2008 00:11
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK michael_w   12/05/2008 18:45
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   12/05/2008 18:50
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK RGH   13/05/2008 10:06
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 09:58
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 11:53
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 11:59
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   13/05/2008 12:16
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Sailfree   13/05/2008 13:08
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DJE   13/05/2008 12:06
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   13/05/2008 13:46
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Fireball   13/05/2008 13:38
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK alant   13/05/2008 15:11
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK DogWatch   13/05/2008 15:58
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK stevebrassett   13/05/2008 15:37
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Clifford_Pope   13/05/2008 13:50
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Chrusty1   13/05/2008 10:34
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK homa   12/05/2008 18:23
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK Tranona   12/05/2008 23:44
. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK peterb   13/05/2008 00:16
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK mikehibb   12/05/2008 19:16
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. * * Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK bendyone   12/05/2008 17:06

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