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Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates.....
      15/05/2008 22:54

I don't know/ use the publication, but tidal rates are fairly approximate anyway. I have just been having a discussion about practical navigation on another forum. What the RYA teach in a classroom is NOT wrong, but may be impractical on a small boat or a fast MoBo.

How long does it take to do an "accurate" RYA style DR plot? How much accuracy is necessary/relevant? How easy is it to use ruler, calculator, dividers, almanac and chart table?

When I got my first sailing cruiser I was given a lesson in practical nav that I found immensely useful. You do not need tidal streams to a tenth of a knot- they won't be that accurate anyway. Estimate to nearest 1/4 knot & assess impact on course, it may be negligible. You have Neap & spring rates on your chart. First use tide table to interpolate between spring & neap, then use 1/12ths rule to estimate rate at given times.

For quick small boat nav without a plotter, have a paper chart folded on your knee, align it to the coast (I'm assuming coastal pilotage) point your flat hand, held thumb upwards, at a known landmark then lay that angle off on the chart by moving your hand (keeping it parallel to the original bearing) so it is over the landmark. Note that line on the chart mentally, then repeat with a second landmark. That will give you a workable position in seconds with no tools or paraphenalia at all. You can do this without leaving the tiller & in any weather or sea conditions.

With an approx position, bearing in mind an egg cup sized area of uncertainty & any potential hazards, you can lay off a course in a similar manner, either using the chart compass or another landmark. These techniques are ideal when shorthanded, needing a sanity check on formal or electronic techniques or if you need an instant solution to a problem.

Don't forget it is difficult to hold a course within 5 degrees anyway, so even 3 degrees accuracy is generally pointless. The point I am trying to make is that you need to understand when close enough is good enough. Thes quick & dirty techniques allow you to check progress quickly, easily & often without spending loads of time below at a chart table making calculations and missing the sailing!

I've written another bloomin' essay again, DOH! Sorry about that!

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* Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... dukes4monny 15/05/2008 22:14
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... wotayottie   16/05/2008 17:36
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Roberto   16/05/2008 14:26
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Sailfree   16/05/2008 19:18
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... lw395   16/05/2008 17:45
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Roberto   16/05/2008 18:06
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Danny   16/05/2008 13:24
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... CBT   16/05/2008 08:08
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... dukes4monny   16/05/2008 08:45
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... sticky   16/05/2008 22:27
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Danny   23/05/2008 20:24
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Sailfree   16/05/2008 13:50
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Morgana   16/05/2008 08:58
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... AliM   16/05/2008 09:36
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Searush   15/05/2008 22:54
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... SAWDOC   16/05/2008 00:07
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... roly_voya   16/05/2008 03:04
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... dukes4monny   15/05/2008 23:33
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Damo   15/05/2008 23:58
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... VicS   15/05/2008 23:48
. * * Re: Tidal streams - Computation of rates..... Danny   15/05/2008 22:28

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