search ybw.com
 
Read the latest news from our sites  
Stolen flares spark false alarm...

Yachting and Boating World Forums >> Liveaboard Link

 |  Print Thread
KellysEye
regular


Reged: 23/07/2006
Posts: 768
Loc: Puerto Rico
Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"?
      26/06/2008 21:28

>I suppose, firstly there is growing empirical evidence that many people make ocean passages in boats that do not have long keels or skeg hung rudders.

Yes they do and most have no problems, it's simply I would prefer to reduce the odds of rudder/keel problems.

>Secondly the reference to "lightweight", which I am not sure whether the reference is to the construction...

I meant construction. If you strip the interior linings out of many lightly constructed boats you can see daylight through the hull. If people are comfortable with that in a gale it's fine by me but again it would worry me. Also I remember seeing a four month old Bavaria that had been lightly used and already one of the bulkheads had parted from the hull. To me that was scary.

>Thirdly, keels and rudders do not fail with the frequency you suggest..."spade rudders and keel bolts can fail - and do so fairly often" is an "urban myth" that is not supported by any credible evidence.

I wish there was a worldwide database of all rudder/keel etc failures I suspect it would open a few eyes. I can only speak about what I've seen and somebody mentioned the ARC. We've done the finish line twice and seen the damaged boats come in. Understandably it's not something the ARC publicises but I can assure you that both years boats were coming in with keel bolt problems and rudder problems/failure. Some boats were abandoned. Out of interest, goosenecks are another regular point of failure (people don't tie the boom down properly). Looking around the yards in Trinidad a month or so ago there were at least half a dozen sloops having their keel bolts repaired. There was also a cat that was being delivered SA to USA and the 'bulkhead' on the main beam had fractured. It's sister ship disappeared and was never found. I could go on but wouldn't claim any statistical accuracy it's just what I see.

>I am pleased you like your heavy displacement steel boat - there was a time when I hankered after just such a beast. However the world has moved on and as many other posters have said in this thread, based on their own experience modern boats are quite capable of doing more than "day sails and a few overnights".

Yes indeed, it's just not something I would want to do. Everyone to their own I think.

> Happy sailing in the boat of your choice!

And to you!

Edited by KellysEye (26/06/2008 22:03)

Post Extras Print Post   Remind Me!     Notify Moderator


Entire topic
Subject Posted by Posted on
* What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats 24/06/2008 20:21
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Marsupial   02/07/2008 10:11
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   05/07/2008 23:34
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   27/06/2008 11:23
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? michael_w   27/06/2008 07:55
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? DavenHelen   02/07/2008 15:11
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Boat44   05/07/2008 18:52
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   06/07/2008 00:02
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   27/06/2008 11:12
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Morgana   26/06/2008 13:34
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Guapa   26/06/2008 13:50
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Morgana   26/06/2008 14:21
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Guapa   26/06/2008 16:39
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Adaero   25/06/2008 14:59
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   25/06/2008 18:17
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? TigaWave   25/06/2008 07:58
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   25/06/2008 11:25
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Guapa   25/06/2008 13:07
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   25/06/2008 18:11
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   25/06/2008 11:49
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? HoratioHB   25/06/2008 12:17
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Kioni   26/06/2008 21:39
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   27/06/2008 00:46
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Kioni   27/06/2008 18:02
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   05/07/2008 23:26
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   25/06/2008 18:05
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Robin   25/06/2008 13:48
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? KellysEye   24/06/2008 21:45
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   24/06/2008 22:00
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? KellysEye   25/06/2008 18:24
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   25/06/2008 19:05
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? KellysEye   26/06/2008 17:08
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? asteven221   27/06/2008 14:42
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? HoratioHB   26/06/2008 19:03
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   26/06/2008 19:05
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? HoratioHB   26/06/2008 19:13
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? ironmaiden   26/06/2008 19:54
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   26/06/2008 18:43
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? KellysEye   26/06/2008 21:28
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   27/06/2008 10:01
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   26/06/2008 23:03
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   27/06/2008 00:42
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Spicemariner   26/06/2008 23:03
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   25/06/2008 10:41
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   25/06/2008 11:43
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   25/06/2008 14:38
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? roly_voya   24/06/2008 23:06
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Tranona   25/06/2008 10:23
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? FullCircle   25/06/2008 08:22
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Pendlecats   25/06/2008 11:37
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? Bav34   24/06/2008 23:26
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? tony_d   25/06/2008 06:13
. * * Re: What do you mean "Modern yacht designs are uncomfortable"? alant   25/06/2008 08:47

Extra information
7 registered and 11 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  danfoley, louisebusby 


Print Thread
Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      Mark-up is enabled

Rating:
Thread views: 3632

Rate this thread

Jump to

Contact Us | Privacy statement YBW Home
Motor Boat and Yachting | Motor Boats Monthly | Practical Boat Owner | Classic Boat | Yachting Monthly | Yachting World
Your Motorboat | Your Yacht | Ships Monthly | IBI | European Boatbuilder | ybw.com
© IPC Media Ltd. All rights reserved. Terms & Conditions | Privacy Policy
IPC Media DMA Trust UK