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Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign!
      08/09/2005 09:45

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I'd best not start on the environmental aspects...................
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Because they are statistically trivial for _all_ UK boating activity combined, compared with just one week's output from aircraft.

Inland consumption may be lower per hour but inland boats often run for very many more hours than those at sea. If I, on the river, want to run up to Windsor for the weekend that's five hours or so each way. OK, 200 horses at 1200rpm isn't using terribly much, say 5l per hour (guesstimate). 50 litres or about £25. If I was narrowboating from Brentford to Oxford, with not dissimilar consumption, 'cos the smaller engine is running a lot harder, and a common enough trip, say 20 hours running time that would be £50 or so. Without red, that becomes £100+. Suddenly a big hit, especially if you are on any sort of budget.

In my narrowboat hiring days I used to reckon 50 or so hours of running in a week's trip. OK, my approach was "I've paid to use this, so I'll use it" and average hire use is lower, even so, say average 30 hours running per week at 4l/hour, 120l/week and so almost 5000l per year taking into account dead periods and high use. I wonder how many sea boats burn that much annually.

Assume I have overestimated fuel use by 100% and its only 2500l per year per hire narrowboat. I think the point stands, the hire process would become far more pricey.

Ask the IWA how relaxed they are, I suspect that the answer is "not at all".

£1.05 is the fundamentally indefensible part where tax issues are concerned.

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* Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! SimonC 01/09/2005 10:49
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   01/09/2005 11:44
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! SimonC   01/09/2005 14:03
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   01/09/2005 17:26
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! whisper   01/09/2005 19:12
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! SimonC   05/09/2005 18:13
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Sgeir   22/10/2005 12:45
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   24/10/2005 14:54
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Wight_Dawn   27/10/2005 11:49
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! whisper   31/10/2005 18:35
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! whisper   12/09/2005 23:16
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! SimonC   13/09/2005 12:59
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! GC1   16/09/2005 16:06
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Col   21/09/2005 22:17
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! GC1   19/10/2005 20:53
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Gludy   21/09/2005 22:43
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   22/09/2005 11:13
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Gludy   13/09/2005 16:02
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! SimonC   15/09/2005 11:05
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Gludy   15/09/2005 12:53
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Robih   15/09/2005 14:58
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Gludy   18/09/2005 22:10
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   13/09/2005 14:53
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Gludy   05/09/2005 21:52
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! klanky   06/09/2005 04:19
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   06/09/2005 10:30
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Robih   07/09/2005 18:46
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Frontier   13/09/2005 20:32
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   08/09/2005 09:45
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Robih   12/09/2005 13:05
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! Andrew_Fanner   12/09/2005 13:36
. * * Re: Come and support the Red Diesel campaign! adrianm   06/09/2005 19:47

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